sidemounting steel bottles

[Scuba fryd]

Moving the snap means moving the tank band up. Since the anchor point (d ring) is the same, this will move the top (heaviest part) of your tank down, moving some top weight closer to the center of you body.

hmm i am gonna try that but ill probly end op getting my self a set of alumium cylinder soon i need more air and from what i see then steel is realy not optimal for sidemount

 

[Etmar]

hmm i am gonna try that but ill probly end op getting my self a set of alumium cylinder soon i need more air and from what i see then steel is realy not optimal for sidemount

Why do you think so? I think in cold waters and with drysuit steel is best option with sidemount.

 

[Scuba fryd]

Why do you think so? I think in cold waters and with drysuit steel is best option with sidemount.

i am thinking since steel wil be apart of your wheigt then it is almost imposebel to stary even close to trim if you want to move your cylinder around exampel infront of you to tug away your regulator after a dive.

oh and if i shuld go and do a singel mount dive

 

[Guille G]

Aluminum get even more top heavy (or “bottom floaty”, really) as they get empty, so that will hardly fix your issue. Tank placement is something you’ll have to fidget with either way, and the principles apply to both.

ETA: I didn’t understand your question or comment on moving the tank around or doing a single mount dive, didn’t meant to ignore it

 

[Scuba fryd]

Aluminum get even more top heavy (or “bottom floaty”, really) as they get empty, so that will hardly fix your issue. Tank placement is something you’ll have to fidget with either way, and the principles apply to both.

yeah i did think somthing like that would be happening but hopped that moving them during the dive would fix that.

ETA: I didn’t understand your question or comment on moving the tank around or doing a single mount dive, didn’t meant to ignore it

moving the cylinder would be for as an exambel when tugging the hoses away while on safty stop. singel mount were becuse i had been playing with the thougt of doing sidemount with one cylinder

 

[Bowers]

hmm i am gonna try that but ill probly end op getting my self a set of alumium cylinder soon i need more air and from what i see then steel is realy not optimal for sidemount

A set of 7 liter steel tanks filled to 300 is nearly the same as a set of 11 liter aluminum tanks filled to 200. I do prefer 13 liter steels for cave diving with deco though.
I agree that your tanks are too far up into your armpits and moving the cam bands up will draw the tank down toward your feet more and consequently shift your weight back.
I also wear lighter steel tanks such as you have in the same manner that i wear ali tanks. As in, the bolt snap is low on my waist and the tank is “rolled” up against me by the force of the bungee. For steel tanks in fresh water it works best to use 9mm bungees instead of 6mm.

Here’s a video explaining it


And here’s two of my sidemount students recently rigged this way with 13 liter steels

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[grantmac]

Take a picture of your harness so I can see why you can't move the drop D rings.
Also take a picture of your tank rigging.

I run steel all the time on my Xdeep. This is absolutely a rigging problem and solving it will fix the trim.

What is the in water weight of those tanks?

 

[Mobulai]

hmm i am gonna try that but ill probly end op getting my self a set of alumium cylinder soon i need more air and from what i see then steel is realy not optimal for sidemount

Not that I ever dove steel on sidemount, but Aluminum tanks are way more wobble given how floaty they get; sticking to steel seems a better fit to diving cold and fresh water

oh and if i shuld go and do a singel mount dive

If you mean diving monkey mount just add weights (on harness probably not the weight pockets on the spine) to balance it off
But if you mean dropping temporarily or „gunning“ a tank; you’ll have to balance it off the hard way, by tension in your body
(My personal hell dealing with this was my first couple pf days doing ANDP and dealing with the 3rd tank; the trick that helped me was extending my leg and arm on the light side independent of the heavy side — if you add Alu to the mix then arm and leg are also independent depending on if the tank is floaty or not)

 

[Cdncoldwater]

i thougt the same. i can feel i am sooo close but no mater what i do it dosnt get better. right now my cylinder hangs low enoug for me to put my knee ontop of the cylinder witch is too low but if i move my cambands i start to tilt even more forward and a it to the right. (i think one cylinder is more dense thaen the other.
but no mather what,then i need biger cylinders since i am getting into tec diving and doing some decompresion diving and. right now on my dives its the air and ndl thats battiling being the limiting factor. gonna try diving 10liter steel 232bars and see how hevy they are and if its easyer to dive them if not ama just get some alumium they shuld be alot better XD

If you’re going tec I would fine tune to the cylinders in that configuration. I regularly use LP50 (7.8L) steel tanks with a 1lb weight on the lower cylinder clamps if needed. I dive mainly cold water in a compressed neoprene suit. Another item may be where your BCD sits in relation to your waist/hips, that could act like a pivot point.

 

[Scuba fryd]

If you’re going tec I would fine tune to the cylinders in that configuration. I regularly use LP50 (7.8L) steel tanks with a 1lb weight on the lower cylinder clamps if needed. I dive mainly cold water in a compressed neoprene suit. Another item may be where your BCD sits in relation to your waist/hips, that could act like a pivot point.

hmm i am not quiete sure how i would fix that if it was the bcd