Short fill hose?

[tomboyy]

Just finished putting together my new kit (cept for the waist strap, missing a part) and the fill hose is really short. I have to turn my head at a 90 degree angle if I want to manually fill the thing and then its still really tight. Is this normal? The description says its a 13 inch fill/exhaust hose.

 

[scubafanatic]

...no that's not normal...you can buy those hoses in many different lengths...sounds like you need to just order a longer one and swap it out.

 

[beanojones]

People who dive redundant bladders like tiny short hoses to keep them out the way. I put 10-inchers on mine. Redundant bladders are only used on dives you would never have to orally inflate anyway.

Which BC did that come with?

 

[tomboyy]

People who dive redundant bladders like tiny short hoses to keep them out the way. I put 10-inchers on mine. Redundant bladders are only used on dives you would never have to orally inflate anyway.

Which BC did that come with?

Care to explain that. I maybe a newbie and as such my thinking maybe wrong, if it is forgive me. What does a redundant bladder have to do with oral inflation? I am thinking if you run out of air (hopefully on surface) or your LP inflator is busted or badly leaking and you have to disconnect you have your oral inflator.

 

[halocline]

I have a longer corrugated hose that I'd be happy to trade for your 13". I think mine is 16". In general, I like the shorter hose, but my wing is pretty high up and close to my back so I can use a shorter hose. The standard sizes are 12", 16", and 22". Dive rite express sells them. What kind of BC did you get?

I have no idea why redundant bladder wings would only be used on dives in which you would never have to orally inflate, but I'm looking forward to hearing about that!

 

[PriusDrIVER]

Is this a DSS wing? I just got mine and it has a 13" hose on the Torus 35. It was shorter than I expected, being new to BP/W I wasn't sure if I was wearing it too low or what. It just reaches past my shoulder a bit, I hadn't tested orally inflating it while having it on yet.

Are these interchangeable between brands? If I wanted/needed a 16 or 22" hose, do I just unscrew the current one and put a new one on? I don't see those listed on the DSS site.

 

[beanojones]

Care to explain that. I maybe a newbie and as such my thinking maybe wrong, if it is forgive me. What does a redundant bladder have to do with oral inflation? I am thinking if you run out of air (hopefully on surface) or your LP inflator is busted or badly leaking and you have to disconnect you have your oral inflator.

If your inflator is busted or badly leaking, you use the other one. If you don't have a redundant bladder, you need a longer hose. But with a redundant bladder, the other inflator (and the other bladder) is the backup, oral inflation is not.

If you are on the surface and out of air, you get out of the gear, and get on top of it. Then the short hose does not matter. Or you just ditch the gear. Saving the gear is the last thing to think about when you have managed to put yourself in that situation, and being mobile (without the doubles) is your best bet.

If you follow the rule of thirds in any slight way, you won't be out of air anyway.

Just about everything said here is why the GUE way of standardization makes sense: Standardization is in general a good idea. If I am not mistaken, the GUE way says you should be weighted in such a way that you can ascend with a total bladder failure anyway. And they don't support double bladder BCs anyway.

 

[beanojones]

Are these interchangeable between brands? If I wanted/needed a 16 or 22" hose, do I just unscrew the current one and put a new one on? I don't see those listed on the DSS site.

This is a good question. I am trying to find that out in this thread:
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/bu...t-kinds-x-time-corrugated-bc-connections.html

Sometimes the flat gasket is a different thickness even when the threads are the same, and that makes them not necessarily interchangeable.

 

[rstofer]

Is this a DSS wing? I just got mine and it has a 13" hose on the Torus 35. It was shorter than I expected, being new to BP/W I wasn't sure if I was wearing it too low or what. It just reaches past my shoulder a bit, I hadn't tested orally inflating it while having it on yet.

Are these interchangeable between brands? If I wanted/needed a 16 or 22" hose, do I just unscrew the current one and put a new one on? I don't see those listed on the DSS site.

I believe I read somewhere that Tobin at DSS said they do, indeed, have a longer corrugated hose but that only a very few hoses have been changed. Give him a call...

Richard

 

[D_B]

Just finished putting together my new kit (cept for the waist strap, missing a part) and the fill hose is really short. I have to turn my head at a 90 degree angle if I want to manually fill the thing and then its still really tight. Is this normal? The description says its a 13 inch fill/exhaust hose.

have you tried it in the water? ... or is this with it hanging on your back on land? .. I think this has come up before and it's better/ok in the water