Shadow Divers -- The Movie

[IceDiverInCA]

Ice, we're discussing the book. If he wants to read my post, he's more than welcome.
I could email George Bush if I wanted to, but really what's the point? Do you think Chatterton was so interested in The Lock Ness Monster that he and the History Channel went over and dove in the Lock? If he's getting paid, more power to him.

John could careless about the stupid monster, only the History Channel cared. Did you see U-869 on the History Channel while they explored inside? I don't get that comparison at all. He has a full time job and that's not with the History Channel. Would I dive to an unidentified wreck at 300ft only to identify it? I would do it any day.

On your point of desecrating the war grave, if that was the case, Kohler would've been shot by a family member of a crew member but they were all appreciative instead. Anybody going inside of the wreck today would be a different story.

 

[Kriterian]

what would you consider a good diving movie? havent seen any.

- Thunderball (but don't even mention Never Say Never Again)

er...

Here is where I was going to list a bunch more but I can't think of any

 

[ScubaSeanMaui]

I didn't realize Chatterton was considered a beginning-intermediate tech diver when he found the uboat

Considering he was just starting to use Trimix (yeah it was new) I think that's as good as he could be without being DEAD.... Considering he almost lost his life in the boat, I'm sure he had a LOT to learn... I guess he was born an Advanced Tech diver...

Sean

 

[Li'l38]

what would you consider a good diving movie? havent seen any.

I was told by some non-divers NOT to see "Open Water." Does anyone here know why?

 

[1setter]

Maybe because it doesn't have a very happy ending. Growing up in a hunting family, my father didn't want us to see Bambi either.

 

[ScubaSeanMaui]

On your point of desecrating the war grave, if that was the case, Kohler would've been shot by a family member of a crew member but they were all appreciative instead. Anybody going inside of the wreck today would be a different story.

If your statements work for you, great. Were all the family members polled? Are you sure you got the entire story? They must have thanked him for putting their relatives' skull upright so he could survey the ship... They knew it was a gravesite. They continued to dive the boat regardless of that fact. I'll bet if the ship were in German waters they would not have been able to dive the boat since Germany would protect its war dead.
It's too bad the USA didn't extend that protection to the German U-boat.

So why would going in today be any different? THey knew there were bodies in there. They knew it was a German sub... I don't see any difference...

Sean

 

[headhunter]

Considering he was just starting to use Trimix (yeah it was new) I think that's as good as he could be without being DEAD.... Considering he almost lost his life in the boat, I'm sure he had a LOT to learn... I guess he was born an Advanced Tech diver...

Sean

I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that John Chatterton was already a fully trained commercial diver.

I don't know if we are drawing distinctions between commercial divers and advanced tech divers. If so, I'm under the impression that commercial divers were about as advanced in tech as anyone could be.

Christian

 

[ScubaSeanMaui]

I don't know how much wreck penetration you do as a commercial diver. Don't they also usually get their gas from the surface? I know next to nothing about commercial divers... Remember all the guys who died on the boat were using air... John was using the Voodoo Gas... Looking back, how can you be a tech diver and not use helium?
I guess he was the most advanced air-tech diver of his time.. He was a very good diver but when he went into that sub and took off his gear and... That was scary!!

I didn't mean any disrespect of his skills... I'm sure he's a lot better diver today than he was back then...

 

[Hyper-limits]

I didn't mean any disrespect of his skills... I'm sure he's a lot better diver today than he was back then...

I'm sure he is a better diver now, you have to understand that early on when they start diving U-Who using air it was OK. Using trimix as you say was the Voodoo Gas.
The other tech diver of the day thought he was crazy to use it just like we now thing anybody diving under 130ft without TX are crazy now.
We have learn a lot from divers like John and Ritchie who took lots of risk.
Taking his single tank to penetrated the engine room took a lot of guts, I know I would not it, but that me.
I know that it took a lot of effort and money to identified U-867 and whatever reward and publicity John and Richie are getting. they deserve it.

 

[wedivebc]

I don't know how much wreck penetration you do as a commercial diver. Don't they also usually get their gas from the surface? I know next to nothing about commercial divers... Remember all the guys who died on the boat were using air... John was using the Voodoo Gas... Looking back, how can you be a tech diver and not use helium?
I guess he was the most advanced air-tech diver of his time.. He was a very good diver but when he went into that sub and took off his gear and... That was scary!!

I didn't mean any disrespect of his skills... I'm sure he's a lot better diver today than he was back then...

In the early 90s other than Billy Deans very few deep divers were using helium based mixtures. They were all still excellent divers and they didn't even have internet access