Shadow Divers -- The Movie

[Azza]

I cannot read between the lines for you. Do you think they would dive this boat and risk their lives so many times just for self-satisfaction?
Sean

Yep. I would. Some people just have curiosity and a drive for knowledge, others dont, usually the ones motivated by fame or some other bulls**t.
I see they were challenging themselves.

 

[Diesel298]

WOW
i just read this thread.
what i dont understand about people is why is there always somone who has to ctriticise things other have done.
dont like it. dont read the book, dont watch the movie....

i remember something growing up as a kid...

"if ya dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all"

there where alot of greatfull people.
they did alot of research..
no we only know what we read and there might be some of the stoty we dont know.. is there something you know we dont. did you read a special edition of "shadow divers" not avalabe to everyone else?
john and richie where on the front lines of what is "tech diving" now
and i dont think they where looking for fame.
we dive wrecks because we want to..
i dive wrecks hundreds of dives have dove, if i had a chance to dive one no one ever dove.. id be all over it... if i can identify it. why not....
what fame and fortune they get or have gotten.
i see it as well deserved

 

[StSomewhere]

They aren't Jacques Cousteau.....

Too funny! Jacques Cousteau (the man) wasn't Jacques Cousteau (the made up legend) either!

Chatterton is probably the most down-to-earth guy you'd ever meet, BTW.

 

[Laughing Swordfish]

what would you consider a good diving movie? havent seen any.

A foreign (Norwegian maybe?) movie called 'the dive'. About a couple of offshore divers getting stuck in a bell several hundred feet down. The bell was waaay too large (artistic license) but they actually got many of the technical details right for once.

 

[Laughing Swordfish]

I don't know how much wreck penetration you do as a commercial diver. Don't they also usually get their gas from the surface? I know next to nothing about commercial divers... Remember all the guys who died on the boat were using air... John was using the Voodoo Gas... Looking back, how can you be a tech diver and not use helium?
I guess he was the most advanced air-tech diver of his time.. He was a very good diver but when he went into that sub and took off his gear and... That was scary!!

I didn't mean any disrespect of his skills... I'm sure he's a lot better diver today than he was back then...

Commercial divers penetrate all sorts of structures, including but not limited to: wrecks, outfalls, pump houses, nuclear powerplants etc etc etc. Yes, they usually get their gas from the surface. How can you be a tech diver without using helium? Last time I checked an air decompression dive is considered a 'tech' dive. Any kind of wreck or cave penetration, whether it involves deco or not, is considered a 'tech' dive.

When Chatterton was doing this stuff, not many people were using helium besides the military, commercial outfits, and a few experimenters like Billy Deans. Chatterton was an experienced commercial hard hat diver, he was also a very experienced North Atlantic deep wreck (scuba) diver. He dove the Doria many times and is probably only surpassed by Gary Gentile in terms of how deep he penetrated that ship. Chatterton has always been on the cutting edge of wreck exploration...and he's not even DIR(snicker).

I'm giving you 9/10 on the troll meter.

 

[Buoyant1]

Wow..that's wild, I can't believe someone would criticize what they did? (for FAME no less!)

I didn't get the impression they were attempting to garner FAME for what they were doing, they got a tip on a site, found an un-logged mystery wreck, spent a lot of time, and hours (and money) trying to figure it out, ONLY for someone to just drop in and identify it when they weren't looking! Nah That's not for fame, that's seeing a job through themselves!

As for Richie:

http://www.u869.com/

Yeah, that's all about him!

Sounds like someone else wanted to find and identify a wreck!

 

[WVDiver]

Just read this online:

"Fox 2000 has signed Ridley Scott to direct and produce SHADOW DIVERS, which is an adaptation of Robert Kurson's bestseller. CAST AWAY's William Broyles wrote the script, which centers on two wreck divers who in 1991 discovered the hull of a German U-boat in waters off New Jersey. The divers spent seven years searching for the truth behind the ship and men who died inside it."

I read this book and loved it. A must read for any diver, IMO. Hopefully, Ridley will do it justice.

ok so when is this movie coming out? I can't wait to see it.

 

[Diesel298]

I'm giving you 9/10 on the troll meter.

:lol3:

 

[Kriterian]

A foreign (Norwegian maybe?) movie called 'the dive'. About a couple of offshore divers getting stuck in a bell several hundred feet down. The bell was waaay too large (artistic license) but they actually got many of the technical details right for once.

Ah, you made me remember another movie:

The Big Blue with Jean Reno. It was about free-diving but it was still a good movie.

They sort of got over shadowed by "The Abyss" but I liked "Deep Star Six" and "Leviathan" (to a lesser extent) that came out around the same time. They were more underwater movies than diving movies, but eh, that's semantics. I also sort of like "Deep Blue Sea", not for the sharks of course, but just for the humor and action.

I worked in the special effects industry (make up and prosthetics) for several years and at a movie theatre for a decade so I have some very eclectic tastes when it comes to movies.

 

[Kim]

If your statements work for you, great. Were all the family members polled? Are you sure you got the entire story? They must have thanked him for putting their relatives' skull upright so he could survey the ship... They knew it was a gravesite. They continued to dive the boat regardless of that fact. I'll bet if the ship were in German waters they would not have been able to dive the boat since Germany would protect its war dead.
It's too bad the USA didn't extend that protection to the German U-boat.

So why would going in today be any different? THey knew there were bodies in there. They knew it was a German sub... I don't see any difference...

Sean

Actually the families and the German government thought that the sub was somewhere in the Mediterranean. Yes, they knew it was a German sub, but they didn't know which one - that was the whole point. As for describing Chatterton & Kohler as 'beginning-intermediate tech divers'.........well.......I suppose we are all entitled to our own point of view. LOL.