Scuba Diving Self Situational Awareness Ribbon

[Raphus]

I'm guessing that none of you bothered to read her profile.

True.. read the about section.

 

[tursiops]

I'm guessing that none of you bothered to read her profile.

I actually looked at her profile but missed the little story.
Quite sad, but her approach is also kind of sad, or, at least, kind of inept.
SB is a pretty good group and many try to be very helpful. There might well be some good ideas to help her out. I think the main point is that a little ribbon is not likely to solve problems with making better buddies. I presume she would like to solve a problem. If she just wants to commemorate her cousin, the ribbon also probably doesn't so that very well either. I don't have any good suggestions for a more useful approach for her, but others might. Bad buddies are easy to find and hard to fix.

 

[Lorenzoid]

I'm guessing that none of you bothered to read her profile.

I see now. It might help her cause if she explained how she would propose we "raise & educate safety & situational awareness in scuba diving" and "help make scuba diving safer and help prevent fatalities." How is the awareness ribbon supposed to be used? Is the idea to wear it on our exposure suits, and if a buddy doesn't notice it then we use it as an opportunity to discuss situational awareness?

 

[emoreira]

Of course that I'm sorry if someone dies in a scuba dive.
People die in a huge different ways. Dying in a Scuba excursion involves lots of facts.
Scuba diving is, in general, a very safe sport. Like flying in a commercial plane. Of course if that fatal accident involves someone loved or near, it makes a lot of harm and the statistics mean nothing.
Situational awareness and safety is something that can hardly be bought. It's the primary responsability of the diver to care for himself/herself. Of course, when you are a new diver, you don't know what you don't know, so stay in the safe side of the path. Ask questions. Do not try things that are beyond your experience level. There is no dive to die for.
I do not feel comfortable that someone outside our sport points out that our sport is unsafe and we must do something about that, just because someone near died in a scuba excursion. Too many question should be asked and answered before an outsider can make that statement.

 

[SDSA]

Hi my name is Nicole iam new to this but I would like to hopefully gain support for this ribbon. It's a scuba diving self situational awareness ribbon. There is a story behind it. Please ask any questions thank you.

Sorry for the delay I'm in the process of planning a 1 yr death anniversary for my cousin whom which is the reason behind this ribbon. He was a beginner diver and 11/21/2020 he died scuba diving. He was left alone and it was evening. He was internationally known neurosurgeon and spinal deformity specialist. It was in Catalina Island and still investigation is pending.

 

[SDSA]

And as I stated I am new to all this, and was just hoping to find some support to help make this ribbon important to the scuba diving community. I was not expecting some of the what I took as rude responses from fellow divers, acting as if your mocking me. And yes ur right something about self & situational awareness, to make others understand the importance of it, you know why to help prevent other fatalities like my cousins. And yes I've made calls sent emails, talked to a few people, and was given some direction to help promote and campaign it. And to the smart one who questioned Google knew nothing well yes its new. And u can Google it and it will come up with the story & picture of him. Again thank you for your time.

 

[SDSA]

Of course that I'm sorry if someone dies in a scuba dive.
People die in a huge different ways. Dying in a Scuba excursion involves lots of facts.
Scuba diving is, in general, a very safe sport. Like flying in a commercial plane. Of course if that fatal accident involves someone loved or near, it makes a lot of harm and the statistics mean nothing.
Situational awareness and safety is something that can hardly be bought. It's the primary responsability of the diver to care for himself/herself. Of course, when you are a new diver, you don't know what you don't know, so stay in the safe side of the path. Ask questions. Do not try things that are beyond your experience level. There is no dive to die for.
I do not feel comfortable that someone outside our sport points out that our sport is unsafe and we must do something about that, just because someone near died in a scuba excursion. Too many question should be asked and answered before an outsider can make that statement.

Well if this comment is directed to myself, yup I'm an outsider and never said it's unsafe, seriously being in urvown home is unsafe these days. And ur wrong when my loved one died statistics meant more to me obviously if they didn't then I'd have no interest. And for you to take offense to helping do something to help make people more aware of things is ridiculous. And self & situational awareness is something you can't be taught it's a skill within, but it is something that one can start to understand how to use. Helping others understand when or how to use it. I have taken a big interest in statistics and stories accidents etc. My cousin was part of USC keck he was one of America's top Neurosurgeons, but as a beginner diver he trusted his dive buddy who left him and that's where maybe his skills should have kicked in maybe he panicked it was after 5pm. Again alot articles or Google search does raise this as an issue that needs to be addressed more. What's wrong with using a ribbon to promote it to help remind those of the importance to be aware...

 

[SDSA]

I see now. It might help her cause if she explained how she would propose we "raise & educate safety & situational awareness in scuba diving" and "help make scuba diving safer and help prevent fatalities." How is the awareness ribbon supposed to be used? Is the idea to wear it on our exposure suits, and if a buddy doesn't notice it then we use it as an opportunity to discuss situational awareness?

I guess that's why I said looking for support to help show the importance to use it as a reminder to educate yourself and others. Does the pink breast cancer ribbon fix or cure breast cancer? Sure doesn't why is it worn? Anyone it's to show support right.

 

[ginti]

Hi @SDSA, sorry to hear about your cousin. My deepest condolence to you and your family.

Your mission is a noble one, but it is also challenging. Maybe you want to get in touch with Gareth Lock, who perhaps can help you with your ribbon:
Scuba board account: @GLOC
Facebook group: The Human Diver: Human Factors in Diving

 

[Julius SCHMIDT]

Sorry for the delay

Have you considered your delayed return and replies render you unsuitable for your appointed position