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I am a big fan of Fantasy Island which is across a little lagoon from Cocoview and has some other things to do. Fantasy Island has a nice beach, pool and even a small zoo.
If you are looking for a little more variety than just diving, this may be the place for you. There are many trip reports about the various resorts so do a search for the resort of your choosing and you can find some details.
When are you going?
 
Point of clarity - Dunbar Rock is off Guanaja - not Roatan.

Yes indeed... and none of them were "dive sites".

The :shakehead:P seems to have lost interest, anyway.
 
Apologies for continuing to threadjack, but when we were there a couple weeks ago diving with AKR, we noticed that the seas were considerably bigger on the south side and at the west end of the island - nothing any worse that one gets in Florida, mind you, maybe 3-4 ft, but it was certainly calmer on the north side, where it was usually 6-12 in.

I haven't seen this discussed much here. Is this typical? Seasonal? Or just coincidence?

As far as sites, I agree with those mentioned previously, and I'd add the Odyssey as a great dive for wreck enthusiasts - not much marine life, but lots of great multi-level penetration possibilities.
 
Is this typical? No Seasonal? Yes Or just coincidence? bit rougher than the norm.

I haven't seen this discussed much here.

In a way, we touched on it in this thread. But, since you saw both sides of the island, help us with some "observational math".

The reefs on the South side begin their vertical walls in 5~35fsw a few yards offshore and drop down to first sand in 90'. They are very thickly populated with soft corals and little critters. The wrecks are older and smaller, asnd they sit in 35~60fsw. The walls & wrecks are also bathed in sunlight all day long, because they really face SSE.

The structure on the North side is dramatically different. Everything is comparatively a lot deeper, the wrecks are an obvious example. To survive the weather conditions, the wrecks on the North side have their best shot at 95+ feet. Observe the reef structure- the deep carving of channels and structure is apparent. It starts deeper and about hundreds of meters offshore in may places.

Here's the math: One side is, for millions of years, battered by life changing storms. The other side has not.

Whenever I say this, somebody gets their hackles up and defends "one side over the other". Please- just understand that there are differences, why there are differences, what causes them, and how you can "read" the historical data with simple observations.

When you are driving along the mountains and you see all the Pines bent one way, are you the kind of person who doesn't wonder why- or the kind who starts to make logical deductions? Prevailing winds, exposure to life giving sun, avalanche chutes- you take all those things into account when you look at those scrub Pines.

The same thing when you plant a garden- what does well in shade, what needs the most water, this or that kind of soil. The analogy draws further away here, but it still works.

The South side is pretty much so always bathed in a prevailing SE breeze. This is the lift of wind that pushes Hurricane tracks up and Northward from Roatan. The better boats on the South side are designed for this. Diving is rarely shut down on the South side~ so seldom that Northside diving is done from the South (from only one resort) just as planned, once-a-week trips. Here is a weekly weather almanac that reaches back three years: Dockside Dive Center Log

The North side lies flat considerably more often. From your observations of the underwater architecture, you know that when winds do come, they are ferocious and life changing. Diving on the North side (West End) does, quite often get shut down. It is an issue of boat design, but moving you to dive the South is an issue of corporate wherewithal~ whether the boats can be moved financially for continued diving. Look for this weather phenomenon when any Hurricane skirts to the North (July-Nov) heading past for Belize of Cancun, look for it also when any "Norther" comes down, (Nov-Mar) usually causing cold snaps in Texas before their arrival in Roatan.

It's a strange combination of wind and wave that have contributed to the odd critter that Roatan has become. Consider that this thin island, barely a mile wide in many places, stretches 17 miles long. It's ridge line and shore act as a barrier 90 degrees perpendicular to the prevailing wind. This will also affect the terrestrial structures as well.

The South side takes it's time getting up to the ridge line, the vegetation is more sparse (heavy sunlight). The trees are slightly bent with the constant winds. When you get to the ridgeline, the land drops quickly to the Northern shore, the trees and growth are thick and tropical, little ponds and rivulets hold water. This effects a lot of things, including the National Bird of the Bay Islands, the Sand Fly.

So- are the waves different? Absolutely, in so many ways- but all for the same reason!
 
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I thought it might also have something to do with the prevailing currents, but of course you're right, wave action is largely driven by winds.

As far as currents, we didn't get too many real drift dives on the North side, but were moving along pretty well across Texas when we dove around West Bay. Our only dive on the south side was Cara a Cara, and while the waves were up a bit, there wasn't much current at all that day.
 
I loved staying at CoCo View - with 2 different boat dives daily + 2 drop off's at Either Newman's wall, CoCo View wall or the Prince Albert + all the shore diving you want to do.. It was FABULOUS. Would go back there in a minute!
Exactly where on Roatan is Cocoview? Can't quite tell from the website where it is.
 
CCV is one of the two major AI resorts located on the South Side of Roatan.

CoCoView and Fantasy Island are located centered in the band of shallow sunlit walls that makes the diving in that area quite unique.

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Look in the center of this map. There's CoCoView.
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Keep in mind the effect of shallow walls that are exposed to huge amounts of sunlight on this SE facing barrier reef. The most interesting portions run from French Harbor to Oak Ridge~ the rough limits of this map.

This will give you an idea of what may be seen: http://www.scubaboard.com/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/3139

The website (with no map) is run by the owners, to talk to the people that love the place, see http://www.websitetoolbox.com/mb/ccv?forum=25270
 
For most of the year the North side is much calmer than the South side. What we do experience as Doc mentions above, are the Northers, these may shut down diving on the North side, but the better operations will still be able to get you out diving on the South Side. We experience between 8-12 Northers a yr. They usually kick up for about 2-3 days. There are over 25 dive ops to choose from on the Northside versus maybe 5 on the South side. Hmmmmmm.
 
RoatanMan:
Whenever I say this, somebody gets their hackles up and defends "one side over the other". Please- just understand that there are differences, why there are differences, what causes them, and how you can "read" the historical data with simple observations.

cocoloca:
There are over 25 dive ops to choose from on the Northside versus maybe 5 on the South side. Hmmmmmm.

Like I said. If you want the Hmmmmmm explained, once again. Look around, use your analytical skills. 25 dive ops clustered into a one mile zone. Why is that?

When these day dive ops opened up on Roatan, they had to concentrate on the tourist populated areas. They needed the walk-by traffic. This West End area formerly was disparagingly called a place for "backpackers". It may still be the best bargain available for causal divers and low cost travelers, but there are pricier offerings that have a firm foothold in the midst of all of these smaller operators. The place has changed.

So as it has lost its reputation of a backpacker's paradise (off to Utila), the character of the many bars, a few small cafes and transitory operations has continued. Why? These are largely rental properties, carved out of small parcels that will someday be condos. Bottom line? The land on the South side draws premium dollars per acre. The locals or the wealthy own large parcels. No one can afford 1200 square feet on that South side. Either you're a big player, or you are a renter. The local big money wants and keeps the land on the South- the impoverished, the new homeowners and renters live at sea level on the North. Hmmmmmm indeed.

One of the best of the day dive-ops on the island is the only one to provide regular South side service, that would be Subway Watersports. They do Dive Service for any number of resorts that have none on site. They serve and dive the South side without the need for retail store front space, no boats just outside the shop, no need for any volume of walk-by foot traffic. Something that just doesn't exist, so they made a plan around it.

Again- there is no "one side is better"- not in terms of dive sites or diversions!

Most divers who come to Roatan are ready to see Lobsters, Crabs, deep large wrecks and are primed to see larger fish. Barring that, they want memorable, exciting architecture. Northside and the west End day dive ops- you can't beat it ! If you want to dive some and party some? Again, the West/North is the clear winner.

After a few dives under their belts, they might be ready to understand the rare beauty of Pipefish, Seahorses, Basket Stars, 24/7 Shore Dives (& night dives), Shallow wrecks, colorful juveniles, many different Eels, all the odd stuff that makes the South unique.

There is no one area or option for everybody, however- there is a perfect choice for any specific individual need. You just have to know what you want from your vacation. It's really that simple.
 

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