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Waterskier1

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Any information on this? I've searched and it doesn't show up. Does anyone have any experience with them? We will be cruising and in port for a day and it looks like they have good rates and schedule for cruise divers. It worries me that with the good looks, that no one has mentioned them before.

TIA,
-Rick
 
Why would you trust anyone who:

1) Doesn't white balance their u/w photos

2) Doesn't show pictures of their boat and dive op?

Not much to go on: http://www.lost-paradise.com/

They apparently dive in front of Suena del Mar and maybe, I dunno, use Tyll's dive shop (or not) which seems to have different prices... http://www.tyllsdive.com/Fun Dives.htm
 
That website exudes quality!

Why would you trust anyone who:

1) Doesn't white balance their u/w photos

2) Doesn't show pictures of their boat and dive op?

Ummm, I'm not considering hiring them for website development nor for a class in underwater photography. :shakehead:

I guess a poor website design directly relates to a poor dive op? :confused:

Not much to go on: On Roatan - The Lost Paradise Inn is the perfect diving vacation

They apparently dive in front of Suena del Mar and maybe, I dunno, use Tyll's dive shop (or not) which seems to have different prices... Directions and Accommodations PADI Scuba Diving on Roatan, Honduras | Tyll's Dive Shop

Thanks for this info. I was kind of skeptical since I have read nothing about this op, yet he markets himself in many tourist venues. I wasn't sure if he was just new to the scene, or so flaky that no one considers him a dive op.
 
.... and it looks like they have good rates and schedule for cruise divers. It worries me that with the good looks...

I guess a poor website design directly relates to a poor dive op?

I was only basing my best guess on what you had already looked at and formulated your opinion based upon. I came up with a way different impression.

A little research on GOOGLE using the few clues that they provided with their websites led me to my further conclusions. Sometimes it pays to snark around a bit first.

Their website mentions that their dive trips are lead by a local well known expert. There is no further connection as to what dive operation they will utilize.

In their website, the do state:

"..during our "peculiar" rainy season, October and November, it rains late at night or in the early morning and does not preclude you from enjoying the Island activities."

That's not "the Rainy Season" most of the rest of the island enjoys.

"Guaranteed Fun on One of the Caribbean's Most Beautiful Islands"

Well, you got that going for you. Fun. It's guaranteed.

They are big advertisers with the on-shipboard tour guide brochures. Let us know how it works out.
 
Well, I can see that my weak command of the English language has reared it's ugly head again. I apologize. When I used the work "look", I think I was really meaning something like "seems". I wasn't impressed with the website construction or the pictures, but I didn't intend on that alone being the basis for not doing business with them.

It "seems" that they are not a true dive op, but rather a tour coordination company, or whatever they are called. I am still kind of surprised that no one has used them or knows anything specific about them. But, that is why I posted - and I think I have my answer. Thank you for helping me find it.
 
I think that's about it.

The cruise ship will have any number of other advertisers that will also likely be brokers for land tours. That's the way the industry is, that's the way "new" cruise ship ports evolve.

If you look at the Cayman model, there are a few cruise ship focused dive operators that advertise to the passengers. That's an unusual exception to the model.

This is done through a "day before" Things to Do on Roatan flyer that features ads and "stories" that are paid advertisements for retail vendors and land tour opportunities. There are also night before lecturettes on-board where shipboard presenters tell eager shoppers and adventurers "what's what" in the next port of call.

You've obviously done some advanced homework and research. You have found advanced copies of what the cruise ship line will be offering in their official guide. Remember, when they offer these excursions, one of the many dire warnings that they will intimate is that somehow the ship will wait for you if you are late in returning from one of these approved outings. Not likely to occur... both your being late or the ship not sailing. Suffice to say they schedule your return way in advance of the sailing.

Cruise Ship diving is kind of a step-child of what most on this Board experience and know best. Cruise Ship Divers are forever coming on line and asking for "the best dive sites" and such. Truth is, a cruise ship diver will be handled as an absolute unknown, and rightfully so. Many come to Roatan with the insatiable desire to dive the vaunted Mary's Place. Truth be known- any operator that takes a first-day-diver on that dive is violating an island-wide agreement. So- how much do you trust them from that point onwards. Mary's Place is really N.B.D., anyway.

Will, the guy who posted above (BayIslandDiver), has seen it all in terms of cruise ship day diver availabilties and offerings. I hesitate to say that, because the last thing he or anyone on an Island needs is to hear broad questions about who/what/when/where- stuff that is smooshed all over this forum, the cruise ship forum, and every other related site on "the nets".

My best personal suggestion? Go with a dive op that shows you in good detail exactly what their dive boats and dive "shack" (not their shop, per-se, but their dive operations room) looks like. It isn't much, but I have a lot of dive boats imaged here: http://www.scubaboard.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=3809

I appreciate your positive attitude about well intentioned but negative comments. When all we have to go on is a website, that isn't much. But if you look for critical details... at least show me the boat- I'm interested in that. In this particular case, all they pictured was the "boat used for snorkeling", which alludes that diving must be... elsewhere?

In the total scope of Cruise Ship day-dive options, I would say that this looks like the possibility of a good adventure... and how bad could it be? They look like they have a nice little restaurant and I'm sure they'll get you in the water just fine. It's just when you start looking at the very lightweight website (in terms of diving) combining it with the very strange reference to the weather- it does make you wonder.

Fortune favors the brave. Go for it. (But like I said- post a report- that way there will be one!)
 
We did a cruise last summer and after looking around on the web we decided just to go with the ship excursion. AKR was very professional and did a great job. We enjoyed it so much that in Roatan that we are going back in about 10 days.
I will say again with our experience that due to some storm issues our ships stops on Belize and
Roatan got switched. I was thankful then that our dive was booked through the ship.
Enjoy Roatan.
Lynn
 
I think that's about it.

The cruise ship will have any number of other advertisers that will also likely be brokers for land tours. That's the way the industry is, that's the way "new" cruise ship ports evolve.


You've obviously done some advanced homework and research. You have found advanced copies of what the cruise ship line will be offering in their official guide. Remember, when they offer these excursions, one of the many dire warnings that they will intimate is that somehow the ship will wait for you if you are late in returning from one of these approved outings. Not likely to occur... both your being late or the ship not sailing. Suffice to say they schedule your return way in advance of the sailing.

Doc, you give me more credit than due. I received the subject link from a fellow diver on the cruise, asking me what I thought about it.

I generally do a lot of research, such as this post, and website reviews, to try to uncover good deals. I don't know how he found this website. I didn't know it was a tour op, versus a true dive op, until you point out some subtle and some not so subtle points. And I do thank you for taking the time to do that.


We did a cruise last summer and after looking around on the web we decided just to go with the ship excursion. AKR was very professional and did a great job. We enjoyed it so much that in Roatan that we are going back in about 10 days.
I will say again with our experience that due to some storm issues our ships stops on Belize and
Roatan got switched. I was thankful then that our dive was booked through the ship.
Enjoy Roatan.
Lynn

I've never used a cruise ship's excursion, and in all cases I was rewarded with a much better excursion. After all, the weakest link theory does apply to cruise ship excursions. I have only cruised once since becoming certified, and that was the cruise where I did my first ocean open water dives through privately arranged dive ops.

Since then, all my scuba diving has been specific to diving (Cozumel, Bonaire, Caribbean Explorer II, etc), or local cold water dry suit diving . I'm not looking to be hand held with someone who was certified 20 years ago, and hasn't dove in 10 years. I have averaged over 90 dives a year, with upwards of 150 dives just on Bonaire in the last 2 years alone, all unescorted by a DM or "Guide".This is not meant to "tooting my horn", just giving some background so you'll see I'm not the typical "Pod" diver.

I have sent email last week to other dive ops such as Coconut Tree Divers, asking them about two tank dives for cruise ship passengers, but haven't received any responses yet (besides the automated "we've received your email"). I'm not going until September, so there is no hurry, I'm just trying to do my homework. :wink:

BTW, due to recommendations on this site, and others, we will be using the ship's excursion in Belize, due to tender times and dive site locations.
 
Oh, I forgot to mention that I didn't try AKR, since they are the purported dive op for the ship, and my past experience is tour/ops won't or are prohibited from taking private cruise ship excursions due to the contract with the cruise lines. I guess it wouldn't hurt to send them an email verifying this.
 
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