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One of the things I think we bring into play when discussing children and potentially dangerous activities is that children have not fully developed the sense of "risk assessment". I know I did a lot of things when I was a kid that I would not consider attempting now. Back then, "danger" was an abstract concept and I considered myself darn-near invulnerable.

Honestly, this even extends to teen years, especially for us boys. When I was a sophomore in High School, I decided to see how high I could jump my 10 speed bike. My friend tells me I achieved around 6 feet of altitude, and I have to take his word for it. The last thing I remember before the jump was turning around up the street to get a good run at the "ramp" we'd chosen. The next thing I remember is waking up in the ambulance with a mild concussion. My friend tells me I came down on the front wheel, went over the handlebars and landed flat on my back. He said I laid there laughing (probably at my own stupidity) for a moment or two before passing out. Helmets? In those days, bike helmets were almost unheard of.

Teen drivers are statistically more likely to have accidents than adult drivers. Part of this is experience, but based on my own youthful follies, part of it was from not thinking in terms of real risks and potential dangers. I rarely thought of anything I was trying to do as hazardous, or that it could result in a situation I couldn't handle.

Motorcycle statistics have taken a spike, on the numbers of young men that jump right in to riding by buying a high-powered crotch rocket, ride it like they're on the cafe racing circuit, and act like the only thing on this earth that can hurt them is kryptonite. We affectionately call those guys "organ donors".

It might be nothing short of a miracle that many of us manage to survive to adulthood.

When I watched that video, I could see two sides of the issue. One was the side many have decried; the apparent deficiencies in the man's training methods with his son. The other side that I saw was that the man was training his son on some of the important skills in diving. While it would seem certain aspects, such as keeping the airway open by blowing bubbles, was absent, it did seem the boy was able to remain calm and in control of himself during the exercises.

There are a lot of parents who don't do nearly as much to train and prepare their children for riding bicycles or driving cars. Heck; you might not believe the number of young kids I've seen turned loose in this neighborhood on gasoline powered cycles, and from their riding habits, if they were given any safety training at all, they were never compelled to follow it. It's amazing we haven't had one of those kids injured or killed, the way they speed around the streets, blow stop signs, and generally act like our roads are their own private tracks.

Yeah, I'm not real crazy about the way dad is training his son in that video, but at least he IS training his son. He didn't just buy the kid scuba gear and turn him loose.
 
Kids do stupid crap. I have one. I was one. I assume the worst, but teach the best I can.

Kids do what they're trained to do... I grew up a 'farm kid'... by the age of 10 I drove tractors... with implements and it wasn't anything *unique* or special... most farm kids my age did to. Occasionally I drove my dad's big truck (on the farm)... and daily worked worked with cattle and hogs. Heck... I was mowing the yard in 1st grade! But then, I was *trained* to be responsible...

... depends on the kid... depends on the environment...
 
I wonder if the self-regulating nature of SCUBA comes into play here, unconsciously. I'm sure none of us want legislators slapping the community with a plethora of laws designed to suck all the fun out of the sport. However, were that kid to die in the US, I can only imagine the PR backlash.
 
Kids do what they're trained to do... I grew up a 'farm kid'... by the age of 10 I drove tractors... with implements and it wasn't anything *unique* or special... most farm kids my age did to. Occasionally I drove my dad's big truck (on the farm)... and daily worked worked with cattle and hogs. Heck... I was mowing the yard in 1st grade! But then, I was *trained* to be responsible...

... depends on the kid... depends on the environment...

I have to agree with you there – that so much depends on the kid. And so much depends on your (my) perception of the kids abilities and functionality.

I discovered my 2 ½ yo nephew atop a 6’ ladder and gave him (IMO) a corrective ‘no way you be climbing ladders unattended’ swat on the bottom. My sister in law came unglued – at the swat.
Climbing ladders was no big deal, he did it all the time and she couldn’t stop him. I didn’t get to the questioning why removing the ladder was not an option because with pride she informed me he also was prone to taking off up the driveway out into the street. He just comes back after a while.
And as I recall, in between the shocks of her verbal abuse to me at the swat and the horror of this child’s supervision; I was effectively inert.
My sister in law is not a monster; let’s just say my perception of risk is just different than hers.

One of my SAR’s was locating the son who survived what to my mountaineering background was absolutely heartbreaking poor judgment as well as risk perception on the fathers’ part. If the father had not refused to consider the son was correct on multiple occasions and aspects we wouldn’t have been wrestling his grotesquely frozen body out. And had that young man not kept a cool head for days as the situation worsened we wouldn’t probably found them until spring, if ever. He was not taught any of the survival and help us to find them he used, they were in his words, “just the best I could think of to do.”

Bottom line for me is a kid is no more to be trusted than an adult. A person’s age is a reference point where one would expect XYZ to have been taught or learned. And obviously (to me) poor judgment is not some magic thing that stops happening.
 
On the subject of people doing stupid things, we should all know what the most famous LAST words of the human male are. ;)

Gary D.
 
"Et tu, Brute?"
 
Probably organized football in schools. I read somewhere that there are like 1000 deaths and major injuries, including permanent paralasis, for every gunshot wound or death from other causes in high school from playing football. anyone do the research lately?
 
It might have been more than 1000:1, can't remember.
 
Kids do what they're trained to do... ......


If you teach a kid to hold his breath underwater and congratulate him when he does it, consider it taught, remembered and put into practice. FWIW, it is not the fact that the father had the child on his Octo, nor is it the fact that he had him underwater that bothered me about the video. It is only the fact that he appeared to be teaching the child to hold his breath because there was no slow exhalation with the reg out of his mouth. It is much safer to teach a child, who likely has less power of reasoning and logic that most adults, to constantly exhale rather than teach them every possible situation where it is safe versus unsafe to hold your breath underwater.

And FWIW, My answer to the question based on the information provided (missing a lot of information) is 54312 depending on the variables.
 
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