Resort's " New Normal " Rule - No AIR 2 or diving your long hose

[CT-Rich]

I have not read the entire 34 pages of response. But, I will add my 2 psi. Muscle memory and the Air2. I grab my Air2 multiple times on EVERY dive. I never have situation where I am guessing where alternate air source is. It gets used for adjusting trim on every dive, I doubt there you can say that about any other alternate, that is muscle memory.

The likelihood of catching coved from another diver in the water is pretty low. The likelihood of needing an air share should be pretty low (if it isn’t, you really need more training). The exception to this would be a DM or instructor, they should probably have new procedures, because they are going to the ones getting attacked by OOA divers.

My fear of covid would be much higher on the boat ride out and in and the common rinse buckets for gear.

 

[oncor23]

The likelihood of catching coved from another diver in the water is pretty low. The likelihood of needing an air share should be pretty low (if it isn’t, you really need more training). The exception to this would be a DM or instructor, they should probably have new procedures, because they are going to the ones getting attacked by OOA divers.

My fear of covid would be much higher on the boat ride out and in and the common rinse buckets for gear.

I mainly shore dive. I drive myself to the locations where I meet partners. So...not worried about the ride out or back, or the common rinse buckets. The only way I'm catching covid from a dive partner is the unlikely event of my running out of air. Yes, it's unlikely, but not impossible. So, I'd rather have a pony than depend on their primary reg being covid free...as covid is not just an issue for 90 yr olds in nursing homes.

 

[saxman242]

So, I'd rather have a pony than depend on their primary reg being covid free

There are a lot of much better reasons than covid concerns to carry a pony

 

[tursiops]

...as covid is not just an issue for 90 yr olds in nursing homes.

Not sure what you mean by this.

 

[saxman242]

Not sure what you mean by this.

I'm sure that was addressed towards me as I had stated in my risk evaluation that a diver that's out diving at a resort is a lower risk individual than a 90 year old in a nursing home, and as such, the current covid death rates are not representational of the risk to the specific group.

 

[StefinSB]

In Italy there are many types of caverns and caves, and different groups of divers going inside them.
Some are similar to other caves you find all around the world..For example I did spend one month at Capo Palinuro, where many caves have a muddy bottom: GUE/DIR methods are correct there.
There are inland carsic caves similar to those in UK, where the speleologic methods developed in UK are the best.
Then there are two very specific cases where I was allowed to dive:
Grotta Giusti in Monsummano Terme, Tuscany. I did dive there only once. The allowed equipment is really minimal. Any sort of suit is forbidden, as water temperature is 37 Centigrades, hence a suit quickly causes overheating.
Fins are not allowed, and kicking is forbidden, for preserving delicate stalactites and stalagmites. You advance pulling yourself with your hands on guidance cables, which are the only thing you are allowed to touch.
In Capo Caccia there are several caverns and a very long cave, Grotta di Nereo, which goes inside the mountain for over 1 km.
Rec divers are entering just for 20-30 meters, for admiring the red coral under the ceiling. The recommended trim is face up, so you see the coral under the ceiling.
The typical trim of US cave divers, with hands partially stretched forward, flexed knees at 90 degrees and fins well above you is totally forbidden there...

You didn’t answer the question as expected. Your description also did not answer a previous statement that frog kicks are not allowed. You rather obfuscated it by saying that one somehow glides on their back through the cave.

 

[Snoweman]

So perviously, idiot diver one had a primary and an air2. Now he has a primary, secondary and an air2. If me (idiot diver two) goes out of air I take the secondary.

The only new training idiot diver one needs is to not drag the secondary along the coral.

How hard was that?

I looked at the links to some shop earlier, an Air2 is twice the price of an octopus. You need a stupid, non standard hose, inflators don’t get rinsed as well as regulators. They are not a great idea. They do serve a useful signaling purpose though.

They also help with travel, too.

 

[tursiops]

I'm getting a bit tired of all the chest-thumping about death rates and the right to get infected if one wants.
If someone wants to go play Russian roulette, that's fine with me.
What I am NOT OK with is the asymptomatic asshats passing their virus on to me.
I don't care if THEY feel immune; I do not, and wish they would respect that and not barge into my life and 6-foot private space without a mask on.

 

[tursiops]

They also help with travel, too.

How so?

 

[Snoweman]

How so?

Just one less thing to carry.