renew your c-card ?

[scubapro50]

There has been many discussions about training vs experience. Many scubaboard members feel that everyone should take a refesher course every few years to keep your skills up. Should the c-card organizations (NAUI, PADI, SSI, ect.) issue cards with time limits that need to be renewed ever 5 years or so by taking additional training to remain good ?

 

[scubadoguk]

There has been many discussions about training vs experience. Many scubaboard members feel that everyone should take a refesher course every few years to keep your skills up. Should the c-card organizations (NAUI, PADI, SSI, ect.) issue cards with time limits that need to be renewed ever 5 years or so by taking additional training to remain good ?

every 2 yrs
Why not !

 

[MikeC]

every 2 yrs
Why not !

Nice way to make extra money for the agencies.

During the first two or so years divers tend to take additional classes so no need there. Maybe a required refresher after seven years, then again every four or five years. BUT, what refresher?? Basic? Nitrox? Deep diving? What about if the person is an instructor or DM??

If the diver continues to take classes, do they need a renewal/refresher??

I am not up on the rules for GUE, do they have a refresher/renewal requirement? If so, what does an instructor do for renewal/refresher?

 

[OE2X]

If we were to go that route then I think one of the criteria would have to be based on logged dives which I believe is how GUE does it. Some of my buddies like Grateful Diver and Uncle Pug get in over 200 dives per year. They don't need a refresher course. If you only dive 5 times a year, perhaps it would be a good idea.

 

[MaxBottomtime]

What about active divers? Should someone diving 50-100+ dives per year be forced to take a mini-OW course? If a person feels they need a refresher due to lack of skills, experience or simply out of practice, fine. There are refresher classes available. Foecing someone to take a basic class for something they are already certified for and currently active is not necessary.

 

[cornfed]

If we were to go that route then I think one of the criteria would have to be based on logged dives which I believe is how GUE does it.

You need to log a certain number of dives every three years at whatever level you're trainined at. All you need to do is submit a copy of your log book. If you don't satisfy this requirement I believe there is some sort of refresher option.

 

[miketsp]

What about active divers? Should someone diving 50-100+ dives per year be forced to take a mini-OW course? If a person feels they need a refresher due to lack of skills, experience or simply out of practice, fine. There are refresher classes available. Foecing someone to take a basic class for something they are already certified for and currently active is not necessary.

I'm an active driver but my driving licence also has a validity date and I have to renew
it every few years even though I'm driving every day.

Anyway, my CMAS cards have validity dates.

 

[MikeFerrara]

I'm an active driver but my driving licence also has a validity date and I have to renew
it every few years even though I'm driving every day.

Anyway, my CMAS cards have validity dates.

That's just the point. A diving certification isn't a license. It's more of a certificate of training. If some one with a boat or an air compressor requires such a certificate before they will deal with you that's their business but in most places there are no laws restricting diving. You don't need a license to dive. You don't need any one's permission. You can walk up to a lake river or ocean, gear up and jump right in.

True we have to renew drivers licenses but all I ever have to do is pay money. They don't test my driving ability.

If we were to be somehow forced to renew certifications (that'll be the day!), what agency would I have to renew with...IANTD, TDI, PADI, NACD? What kind of refresher would I have to take...OW, AOW, rescue, full face mask, dry suit, night, wreck, ice, nitrox, nitrox, cave, trimix? What? Or maybe I'd just have to demonstrate that I can kneel on the bottom correctly?

Maybe all? Maybe I'd have to be doing refreshers every week just to get one of each in every couple of years.

You folks buy cards that need to be baught over and over if you like...me? I'll just dive when I want.

I'll never get over people. When we talk about the poor quality of training and how it can be improved they argue in favor of leaving it the way it is but then they propose manditory refreshers and ongoing payoffs to the agencies that failed to teach them correctly in the first place.

 

[OE2X]

That's just the point. A diving certification isn't a license. It's more of a certificate of training. If some one with a boat or an air compressor requires such a certificate before they will deal with you that's their business but in most places there are no laws restricting diving. You don't need a license to dive. You don't need any one's permission. You can walk up to a lake river or ocean, gear up and jump right in.

True we have to renew drivers licenses but all I ever have to do is pay money. They don't test my driving ability.

If we were to be somehow forced to renew certifications (that'll be the day!), what agency would I have to renew with...IANTD, TDI, PADI, NACD? What kind of refresher would I have to take...OW, AOW, rescue, full face mask, dry suit, night, wreck, ice, nitrox, nitrox, trimix? What? Or maybe I'd just have to demonstrate that I can kneel on the bottom correctly?

Maybe all? Maybe I'd have to be doing refreshers every week just to get one of each in every couple of years.

You folks buy cards that need to be baught over and over if you like...me? I'll just dive when I want.

I'll never get over people. When we talk about the poor quality of training and how it can be improved they argue in favor of leaving it the way it is but then they propose manditory refreshers and ongoing payoffs to the agencies that failed to teach them correctly in the first place.

Here, Here!!! Excellent points Mike.

 

[Kim]

Or maybe I'd just have to demonstrate that I can kneel on the bottom correctly?

:rofl: