Religion and scuba

[agilis]

I believe an Old Testament Christian scholar would say otherwise, but that's past what I've studied & recall.



Christians can eat lobster.



Richard.

I believe a lot of Old testament Christian scholars are full of $hit.

Jews can eat lobsters with gusto. Believe me, I've paid for enough of them. The lobsters, I mean.

This is not directed against you in any way, but I've noticed that many people who live in the sticks have odd attitudes toward Jews. I remember spending a few weeks in the deep south with a Jewish ex-wife. You'd think she was from Mars, the way some locals reacted when they found out she was Jewish.

"But you caint eat that pork chopped BBQ samwich!"

"Just watch me, Jim Bob."

 

[doctormike]

None of it grants eternal life.

Right. Nothing grants eternal life.

I understand that it's scary to stare down the barrel of our own personal annihilation. I know how comforting it must be to believe that if you just do X, Y and Z you won't really die. But the thing is, that our own personal survival after death shouldn't be the one thing that we are all striving for. We should strive to make THIS world, the one world that we actually KNOW exists, as good as it can be. And that ultimately means leaving this world at some point, so that new generations can enjoy it.

It's so selfish to make it all about our own eternal life. So narcissistic.

"I'm not greedy. I have love, blue skies, rainbows and Hallmark cards, and that has to be enough. It has to be enough, but it's everything in the world and everything in the world is plenty for me. It seems just rude to beg the invisible for more. Just the love of my family that raised me and the family I'm raising now is enough that I don't need heaven. I won the huge genetic lottery and I get joy every day." - Penn Jillette

 

[NAM001]

Sorry did not notice the forum title.

Right, just like the forum title says - "Non-Diving Related Stuff"

 

[divad]

Right. Nothing grants eternal life.

I understand that it's scary to stare down the barrel of our own personal annihilation. I know how comforting it must be to believe that if you just do X, Y and Z you won't really die. But the thing is, that our own personal survival after death shouldn't be the one thing that we are all striving for. We should strive to make THIS world, the one world that we actually KNOW exists, as good as it can be. And that ultimately means leaving this world at some point, so that new generations can enjoy it.

It's so selfish to make it all about our own eternal life. So narcissistic.

"I'm not greedy. I have love, blue skies, rainbows and Hallmark cards, and that has to be enough. It has to be enough, but it's everything in the world and everything in the world is plenty for me. It seems just rude to beg the invisible for more. Just the love of my family that raised me and the family I'm raising now is enough that I don't need heaven. I won the huge genetic lottery and I get joy every day." - Penn Jillette

You tawk like somebody that's been read'n about Byology or somtin'. My ears is plugged....in case gawd is a listening. Ya never kin tell 'cause
I am told He is kinda secretive in his devices.

 

[JohnN]

. Yes, Christians can eat lobster.

The New Covenant under Christ has less formal ordinances than seen in Leviticus, although the call to love God with all our heart, soul mind and strength, and our neighbor as ourselves, can keep us busy. God is holy and perfect; it should be no surprise He taught the Hebrews strict observance of detailed customs. As I mentioned with the example of sacrificed animals foreshadowing the sacrifice of Christ, some of those old teachings modeled truths.

Richard.

We had some Baha'i folks staying the weekend, where we had scheduled a pig roast. If you didn't know already, the Baha'i recognize all the prophets (including Mohamed), but can eat pork because even though Mohamed said it was forbidden, he didn't say why. . .

To paraphrase RJP, it's all marketing. . .

 

[doctormike]

You tawk like somebody that's been read'n about Byology or somtin'. My ears is plugged....in case gawd is a listening. Ya never kin tell 'cause
I am told He is kinda secretive in his devices.

God is omniscient, but he chooses to avoid the comment section of YouTube and Scubaboard (except for the BP/W threads).

 

[lowviz]

God is omniscient, but he chooses to avoid the comment section of YouTube and Scubaboard (except for the BP/W threads).

Thank God!

In that case I'll post.

I have no conception of any previous life. This leads me to believe one of two things:

1) I am a miraculous first in an endless chain of reborn consciousnesses.
2) I have one chance to get it right and be a decent human before I get recycled.

You pick...

 

[Bob DBF]

At my age, I pray every year for another year of diving. I don't know if it helps, but it can't hurt.



Bob
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I may be old, but I'm not dead yet.

 

[phoenix31tt]

not gonna read this whole thread... people tend to get up in arms about this stuff... those that read someone else's "comments" on the bible and think they understand what's going on... modern society, anything can be justified anyway you want it bleh.. Christianity isn't the only religion btw.

neways i'm religious and I dive... my wife is also... most of the local divers i know believe in a God of some sort as well, some religious some not. I know muslims and hindus that dive as well. I also believe in science... science and God aren't mutually exclusive i.e. existence of one does not prove non-existence of the other

 

[drrich2]

We should strive to make THIS world, the one world that we actually KNOW exists, as good as it can be.

God can bestow eternal life, the Christian accepts, and as for this, absent any existence left, both we & future generations are brief & extinguished anyway, and 'good' a matter of arbitrary belief if just rooted in human views.

Richard.