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Recreational Dive Planning software?

Discussion in 'Dive Software' started by stuartv, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. rhwestfall

    rhwestfall Woof! ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    fee its like $7 a year, and the specific computer interface is about the same (one time purchase)............

    It runs basic (but useful) functions in the free version.

    It was an excellent resource to teaching my daughter the "what if" scenarios, or to do some initial planning. I, as well as many others, have been tinkering with it since its inception. Many with far more diving experience have been very receptive of Alberto's efforts.
     
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  2. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light

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    Below is from my OP. I can do that with VPlanner?



    ---------- Post added February 13th, 2015 at 09:48 AM ----------

    $7/year or free? I don't understand. $7/yr for the Advanced version? And what if I don't want any computer-specific interface because I just want to do planning? So far, I'm fine with using Subsurface for logging.
     
  3. victorzamora

    victorzamora Solo Diver

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    There is a free version. There are features unlocked by paying. Download it. Try it. If it works, great. If not, purchase autobahn features. Nobody is forcing you to buy computer support. As for DiveNav being spam, you really couldn't be more wrong
     
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  4. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light

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    My decision to not try it (at this time) is not because I think it's spam. It is because of the points I made earlier about HOW it is being offered. It is a commercial product that does have costs associated with full use and yet the website not only hides the pricing - it seems to have been very carefully written to avoid even giving hint that using it (all features) could involve paying anything at all. That is deceptive and I won't support it. I am a software professional and it is an issue of principle for me.
     
  5. victorzamora

    victorzamora Solo Diver

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    I've never been under the impression it's 100% free to use. The site didn't confuse or vex me. I guess I just don't understand your issues. Alberto is honest.... almost to a fault.
     
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  6. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light

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    If you can go to DiveNav.com and find something there that shows pricing - or even something that explains that there is a free version and a paid option that provides access to more features or support or whatever it is your money gets you, please post the link and I will be happy to publicly apologize for saying the site is deceptive. I could certainly have missed something and, if so, I would truly like to be set straight.
     
  7. rhwestfall

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    :facepalm:
     
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  8. DiveNav

    DiveNav ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    My engineers, that are much younger and smarter than me, told me that putting some text with "click here" is so old and the way to do is to put the link underneath the logo. As I said, they are smarter than me.

    Features and prices are listen in our divePAL forum HERE and on our store HERE (Yes, for liability reason we do want users to register in order to use the advanced options of divePAL)

    For your info, divePAL is being used by PADI in their new OW course.
    Every PADI OW student enrolled in their new OW class get 1 year of free use of the Nitrox version of PADI by downloading it from this page

    ---------- Post added February 13th, 2015 at 07:42 AM ----------

    It is in our divePAL support forum
     
  9. stuartv

    stuartv Seeking the Light

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    Thank you for responding to my issues.

    Yep, this is not the first time young, smart engineers made a recommendation that older and more experienced engineers would recognize as flawed. The divePAL product page would make it easier for people to find the download if it actually had the word "Download" on it somewhere. Preferably as part of the actual hyperlink. I gather many people find the download link without that visual cue, but I believe any Human Factors analyst would tell you that MORE people will find the download link if you give them a little more help. As a software professional myself, and having developed a number of commercial websites, when I see a graphic of a product's logo, I would expect that, if it's a hyperlink, it would take me to the product page for that product. And in this case, I was already on the product page. Thus, I would have no expectation based on the way Web pages generally work, that that graphic would be a hyperlink to take me to a download page. In your case here, I would simply modify that graphic image to overlay a label that says "Download" on top of the product logo. 10 minutes in Photoshop and 5 minutes to update the page and you're done.

    Thanks for the link to the forum page. It would have been very helpful to me if:

    - A link to that page was on the product page itself, labeled as "Features and Pricing".

    - The forum post title was "Features and Pricing", instead of just "Features".

    As for the pricing itself, I can see that I would need the Nitrox version before it would be useful to me. Your price list says "$5.99". From a different forum post I read on your site, I have a feeling that the price is really "$5.99/year". Is that correct?

    I am being completely sincere when I say congratulations! I expect that that is major milestone for your company. As a fellow software entrepreneur, I can really appreciate how meaningful that is.
     
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  10. Lorenzoid

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    DiveNav, please hire Stuart--he clearly has too much free time.
     
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