Quarry Accidents

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Look at it this way... there's nothing in particular that makes Quarries more dangerous, at least not ones that have been properly prepped for diving (meaning, entanglements removed, etc). The perception that one is more dangerous could be due to the sheer number of dives happening there skewing the "stats". Plus, the high percentage of new divers who may be in "open" water for the first time -- not saying that they're doing something wrong, but they could be ticking an existing medical condition.

At least at the quarry, it's probable that the ambulance can drive right up to the shore instead of having to endure an hour boat-ride back in should something happen.
 
The biggest hazard (if that's what you want to call it) I've seen at quarries like this, is the cold waters at depth & regulator freeze- ups. I frequently dive at Pennyroyal in KY. Below 60 ft it is 42 degrees year round, I would assume the other quarries in the region are similar. I have been there several times when there has been an incident. To date, the incidents I've seen turn out well in the end. Never a case of DCI or a fatality. The staff reacted quickly & got the divers out of the water & on oxygen ASAP. Only 1 or 2 have had to go to the hospital,... just for observation & did fine. The biggest culprits of these incidents is ill equipped, untrained or ill prepared divers. I've seen 1 diver who had a new drysuit on & didn't know how to control it come to the surface much too fast, I've seen a diver who had a pony bottle have a free flow, not know how to use it, freak out during the free flow & bolt to the surface. I had a free flow of my secondary regulator, last year at Pennyroyal, at 95 ft. I was wearing doubles & in the middle of a primary valve shut down drill. Having trouble reaching the valves because of the cold (thick gloves & stiffness) & 1 hand tied up holding the regulator to breathe from, I was able to breathe off of the free flowing regulator & make a decent ascent (minus the safety stop). My tanks were mostly drained by then, but I was in good shape. I have over 200 dives at this quarry & I would say that 1/2 of them are deep dives, that was my first ever free flow. I'm glad my IT/IC went over breathing a free flowing regulator just a couple weeks before. I hadn't done it since OW. The refresher probably saved my life in that event. That cold water is not to messed around with, but the risks can be dealt with, through proper training & equipment, in that order. As was mentioned above, the biggest problem with incidents at these quarries is divers who are not trained or equipped to deal with these "what if's".
 
I will agree with Jim and Tammy, it's not the location - it's the diver. Most issues in deep cold quarries is new inexperienced divers or casual vacation divers that are diving beyond their means or training. Recently a girl popped to the surface from 85' after a free flow incident. Her dive buddy surfaced 10 minutes later. Need I tell you about the inexperience or lack of training that set up this possible fiasco? She did come out of it with no ill effects since it was their first dive and she had no nitrogen loading. A little while on O2 and some comforting words she was fine, TG she didn't hold her breath while on a freak out elevator ride......
 
Now as far as Gilboa being a dangerous trap.. HEHEHEHE let see what you think this coming weekend... No just kidding. I hope everyone that goes this weekend, has a great time. I hope to see you all on the news In a GOOD way of course..that you broke the record..
 
Now as far as Gilboa being a dangerous trap.. HEHEHEHE let see what you think this coming weekend... No just kidding. I hope everyone that goes this weekend, has a great time. I hope to see you all on the news In a GOOD way of course..that you broke the record..

I agree (not that Gilboa is a danger trap--far from it). I have concerns for this weekend. I pray nothing bad happens. Just so many divers (and newbies) in one area. So many things can go wrong in and out of the water. Gilboa has a great rep in the dive community, however the news would love a story about the dangers of diving.

Boats, ignore the chit chat on quarries and come out and dive with us. I find that those who talk about the quarries and charters are not in the water but in the shop looking at gear that will not be used.
 
Gilboa sees a lot of traffic and it's very deep. With it's reputation as a top dive site, it brings people from everywhere. A couple fatalities were medical issues. The others seem to involve panic. There are no significant currents. There are submerged saplings. No fishing is allowed, so no real entanglement issues. There are rumors of a troll that lives under the bus... :D

The biggest hazard at Portage might be along the wall near the silo. If you're shallow, swimmers like to jump off the ledge there and could land on you. Shallow it can be real clear (Caribbean clear), but a haze hangs around the bottom. They have a neat museum. They also run other entertainment for the surface creatures...

White Star offers a depth of about 80. You also have boating and fishing, but in all honesty I don't see much boating. Maybe it's just my timing (generally I visit in Spring).

If you have questions about the Guinness attempt at Gilboa, there's a thread running somewhere...
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/gr...record-breaker-gilboa-quarry-july-2009-a.html
 
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I've been certified since 1985, and I'm a firm believer in being safe and diving within my limits. Just this year, I've decided to "go pro", and I'm looking forward to increassing my skills and knowledge.

For as long as I've been diving, 99% of diver accidents that I've heard about, are related to what everyone has posted in this thread. Health issues, diving outside of your experience, etc...

I appreciate the feedback, as well as the various insights given. Thank you! I'm looking forward to participating in the Gilboa record attempt this weekend, as well as meeting divers from this area!

I wasn't trying to stir the pot with the thread! Again, appreciated!
 

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