Pros and Cons of Working in a Shop Vs. Independent Instructor

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In order to understand the issue about using the gear the shop sells, etc., it is important to understand the theory behind an agency like SSI requiring that instructors work for shops. (All of this was explained to me when I attended an SSI marketing workshop taught by its owner, Doug McNeese. This was before they were sold, but McNeese is still leading SSI.)

McNeese came to SSI from NASDS, which he owned when the two agencies merged. He then took over SSI and made NASDS philosophy SSI philosophy. The original name of NASDS, going back to the early 60s, was the National Association of Skin Diving Stores. It was a trade organization designed to help sporting goods stores sell scuba equipment. It came to the realization that the best way to sell scuba gear was teach scuba from the store, and it changed "stores" to "schools" in its name. According to its philosophy, the purpose of instruction is to sell gear, and the employee in the best position to sell that gear is the instructor. In the marketing workshop, McNeese advocated creating dive packages for people to purchase, with the most expensive one being the professional package. That package should be comprised of the combination that provides the best profit margin. He said all the instructors should be required to purchase (at a discount, of course) and to wear that gear package when they instruct, and they should be required to tell their students that they chose to wear that package because each item is the best there is, and as instructors they want nothing but the best. They are to say that even if in their personal diving they do not use a single one of those items, and they are to say that even if the items they do use in their personal diving are sold by the store. The key is to lower vendor charges for that specific set of gear, which will happen if you sell enough of them, so selling any of the other items on the store does not work in the long term best interests of the profit margin.

So if a shop has anything close to that philosophy, it is going to want to see all instructors wearing the gear they sell the most. They are not going to like to see some independent instructor coming in and implying that there are other good brands and models out there.
 
your first paragraph all depends on how the shop is run, but don't expect to have much influence on how the place is run. Gear service is all up to how the shop is set up, and you may get to go through the courses to service everything as part of being a shop employee which means you would be able to work on your own gear for free, though still have to pay for consumables. You may or may not be able to get under a group insurance policy, that will also depend on the agency you are with and how the shop is run.

second paragraph all depends on the shops in the area you want to teach and what their motivation is

third you wouldn't necessarily need access to a compressor and booster but you may have to pay for fills depending on the shops in the area. you may be able to work something out, you may not. You also have to factor in rental gear for students if you are truly independent as the cost of rental gear from a shop would be prohibitive to teach recreational courses
 
McNeese advocated creating dive packages for people to purchase, with the most expensive one being the professional package.

Wow, you are giving me serious flashbacks here. I got my OW through SSI and boy did they try really hard to push merchandise on me. Had I given them my credit card I would have been at least $3K in debt. This seems almost like a pyramid scheme.

It's also kind of surprising how this industry survives :)
 
My views on being a Shop Instructor or an Independent, are unique because I have been both for many years and a Shop Owner. I started out as a shop instructor, then became an independent, then went back to a shop instructor, now being both. After becoming a shop owner, and realizing why shop owners did what they did and required what they did, I began to have a better understanding of the philosophies of each. As a shop instructor, I always had a uniform I had to wear (a particular set of dive gear required by the shop), but as an independent I was free to wear gear of my choosing. As a shop instructor, I had a set rate I made per student, but as an independent, I set my own rate. As a shop instructor, I was covered under an umbrella insurance policy, or at least had a pretty good discount on one. As an independent, I paid the full premium out of pocket. As a shop instructor, I had a steady flow of students. As an independent I had to drum up my own business. I made a living both ways. The key was to find a way to offer a product (a particular scuba certification, as an independent) that no one else had and market it for a steady flow of income. The main question you should ask yourself is what is your personal goal as an instructor. If it is to teach people how to dive, and to enjoy the ability to breathe underwater, then the requirements of being a shop instructor (such as wearing what you are told, this gear over that gear) should not even be a nuisance to you. If your goal is to share a passion with others, but not worry about making a living at it, then the independent route is a great way to go. Once you have determined what your goals are as an instructor, then making the decision to be either or is simple. For 10 years I was a Police Officer here in North Carolina, both for a city and I was dual sworn as a Deputy Sheriff for the County that I lived. Truth be told, my Police Uniform was awesome, but my County Deputy Uniform sucked. But my goal was to serve my community as a Public Servant. The dislike that I had for my County uniform was not even a nuisance because the uniform was not a part of my goal. I have watched officers quit their job for the simple fact they did not like the firearm the department required them to carry. Similar to an instructor saying he does not want to work for a shop because they make him wear certain gear. The point of being an instructor has nothing to do with what you wear, but teaching people how to be safe under water. The shop I own is an SSI Diamond Facility, but we also teach for PADI, PDIC, SEI, and CMAS. Our SSI instructors are shop employees and we do require them to wear a particular set of gear anytime they are in front of students. We also pay in full their liability insurance in return. Our current rates of pay is consistent with our area (other dive shops). Instructors leading trips (shop instructors), are covered on all cost during trips. So the trade off of having a set uniform is fair in our / my opinion. Our independent instructors, do not have the same requirements and are on a different pay scale, but they are responsible for their own insurance policy. Most have full time jobs and do not rely on Scuba Certifications for a living. I would suggest try both. Start as a shop instructor to get your feet wet and see how it goes. If you get a bad taste in your mouth, then become an independent. Remember you are there for the student not yourself. Either way decide what your goal is as an instructor and stay safe.
 
Wow, you are giving me serious flashbacks here. I got my OW through SSI and boy did they try really hard to push merchandise on me. Had I given them my credit card I would have been at least $3K in debt. This seems almost like a pyramid scheme.

It's also kind of surprising how this industry survives :)

yet your other thread has you catering to what the industry is pushing. Churn and burn... Not trying to be a jackass, though I know full well I'm coming off as one, but the beginning of your other thread on this subject is exactly what the industry wants you to do, pay them a bunch of money, and then you get burned out and the next guy comes along because it is all about instant satisfaction not long term growth. That is why you don't see dive shops catering to technical divers. Yes we own lots and lots of dollars worth of gear, but it is spread over many years and there are only a few of us. Far less dollars worth of gear they can get out of the hundreds of recreational divers looking for the cheap/fast/easy way into getting a cert and then buy a bunch of gear they don't actually need. Then get burned out, and the cycle starts over again. Vicious, but it's how the industry works and you are asking about how to perpetuate that in another thread while criticizing it in this one
 
I can't tell you how it normally works, but I can tell you how it works at a store near me. The instructor working for the shop did all sorts of stuff during regular business hours, then ran classes too. Classes were taught at the same rate as all the other instructors, which was a per-student rate.

If you still think this is a path to financial security he ended up needing to have his girlfriend co-sign on a used car after doing this for a couple of years and his car died on the way back from a dive site.

This shop has a deal with aqualung where the instructors have to use/wear aqualung family gear when teaching, but they get sizable discounts on all aqualung family gear. The rep can make exceptions and is reasonable about this if you own a dry suit of something like that, but he doesn't have to. This is linked to some sort of increased discount the store gets for buying merchandise from aqualung.
 
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The instructors for GUE are not usually store employees, but some are. Some own shops, some are fully independents, some work for shops. I know that when I got some coaching from an instructor who works for a shop I paid him directly. And for 3 hours I paid him what an instructor around here would earn for teaching an entire open water course.

But it is highly expensive to become a GUE instructor, and expensive to stay a GUE instructor. The minimum cost (assuming you are already an experienced GUE tech diver) is $3500 iirc, and that requires that you don't have any issues with any of the 50+ modules. (I was told nobody gets away with that little in practice.)
 
yet your other thread has you catering to what the industry is pushing. Churn and burn... pay them a bunch of money, and then you get burned out and the next guy comes along because it is all about instant satisfaction not long term growth. Vicious, but it's how the industry works and you are asking about how to perpetuate that in another thread while criticizing it in this one

You're making a lot of assumptions here TBone. Besides, I think it's a totally different thing for a diver who thinks they have the necessary skill and knowledge to be a scuba instructor to want a quick certification program than a shop to push thousands of dollars of equipment on a newly minted open water diver that many in fact never dive again.

Let's keep the threads separate if possible please so we can maintain focus. If you want to question the motivations of someone who wants to become and instructor quickly, please do it in the other thread.

Thanks,
Mike
 
FWIW the LDS here doesn't pay his instructors. They get a discount on gear and trips.
 

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