InTheDrink
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Ok, so this is a split from a post DCBC made in a current thread about diving education today.
It may also coincide well (or perhaps repeat) the current hullabaloo about BSAC's stance on Primary Take (which I can only read as Primary donation) which is also featured in debate on this forum.
Anyhow, my question is this: I've just started doing the long hose, primary donation necklaced backup and thus far I love it. I've even needed to donate which was helpful. The primary drivers for me changing to this config were:
1. I wanted miflex hoses as mine were rigid and pulling my reg out of my mouth
2. I wanted some space capacity in the event of an OOG/LOG situation
3. Last but not least, I have always believed that the location of a non-standard attachment mechanism for the backup is a death trap (sorry for dramatic language). In buddy checks on many occasions I haven't been able to release the octo on first attempt. Bad news. And if someone takes my primary, my octo was rarely in good view point so I would need to retrieve by feel (and hope it was where I put it in the first place). Essentially I saw this aspect of having a safe second not very well designed and not terribly safe.
So I've tried out an alternative rigging that has significant following on this board. So far, perhaps unsurprisingly given the participants, I haven't come across any good arguments against long hose, primary donation, necklaced backup. But DCBC's opinion I respect and he has mentioned that he thinks it a bad idea. Rather than hijack his thread I've started a new one.
So what are the downsides to long hose/primary donation/necklaced backup.
Go, shoot.
J
This is why some Instructors (including myself) don't teach primary donation. It breaks the first rule of every major water-rescue agency: Never put yourself in danger. As soon as you give up the primary, it's a turkey shoot.
It may also coincide well (or perhaps repeat) the current hullabaloo about BSAC's stance on Primary Take (which I can only read as Primary donation) which is also featured in debate on this forum.
Anyhow, my question is this: I've just started doing the long hose, primary donation necklaced backup and thus far I love it. I've even needed to donate which was helpful. The primary drivers for me changing to this config were:
1. I wanted miflex hoses as mine were rigid and pulling my reg out of my mouth
2. I wanted some space capacity in the event of an OOG/LOG situation
3. Last but not least, I have always believed that the location of a non-standard attachment mechanism for the backup is a death trap (sorry for dramatic language). In buddy checks on many occasions I haven't been able to release the octo on first attempt. Bad news. And if someone takes my primary, my octo was rarely in good view point so I would need to retrieve by feel (and hope it was where I put it in the first place). Essentially I saw this aspect of having a safe second not very well designed and not terribly safe.
So I've tried out an alternative rigging that has significant following on this board. So far, perhaps unsurprisingly given the participants, I haven't come across any good arguments against long hose, primary donation, necklaced backup. But DCBC's opinion I respect and he has mentioned that he thinks it a bad idea. Rather than hijack his thread I've started a new one.
So what are the downsides to long hose/primary donation/necklaced backup.
Go, shoot.
J