PLEASE help me pop my freakin' ears!

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Scuba_Timmy:
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Im undertaking my OW course right now but cant pop my ears to save my life! I

Can anyone provide some actual help, as my instructor says to .."just blow harder!"..YEAH RIGHT! HELP!

Timmy,
A) find another instructor, he's no help to you.
B) Your ears don't "pop", and using that terminology may be part of the problem. If you equalize right away from the surface to depth, you don't (or shouldn't) actually feel much of anything at all. Maybe a slight pressure before you equalize, but nothing more. Read all you can, but forget "popping".

Neil
 
I got a drill--- No just kidding-- just relax-- blow your nose and take it down slow! Hold on to the line as you go down-- I hope you have a line oin the pool you are using.
 
Hey neil why are you attacking his instructor? How do you know he is not helping any? How do you know he is not patient? Take it easy--dont go around slamming instructors that you know nothing about, as I read it it "Blow Harder" was just tongue and cheek humor.
 
JPBECK:
Hey neil why are you attacking his instructor? How do you know he is not helping any? How do you know he is not patient? Take it easy--dont go around slamming instructors that you know nothing about, as I read it it "Blow Harder" was just tongue and cheek humor.

I see your point. I saw an instructor who calls equalizing "popping your ears" and says "blow harder" when the student fails to equalize. Sure, I can see it as tongue-in-cheek, but he failed to help the student. Bad nomenclature, useless (possibly harmful) instructions. That's what "I" read into it. As always, I could be wrong. Naaaah! :)
Neil
 
I gather from the original post that scubatimmy has not tried equalizing in the water. I hope I'm wrong. Maybe you just equalize very easily. Maybe you have been riding planes your whole life and it comes very naturally. I don't know. Thing is for some, like my wife, she can "pop" her ears very easily in the water, without even holding her nose. Maybe you just don't realize you have already equalized.

Then again I met someone on a dive trip who had to have surgery to enlarge some tubes so that he could ride an airplane. He had this done when he was 16. Without that operation, he couldn't dive today.......or ride planes.
 
I tried the Blow harder thing.. I blew my left ear out. Now I have tinnitus. Don't blow harder, blow smarter! :wink: Seriously. I found that holding the nose and blowing can easily damage the ears. I notice that in the morning I have to "Wake Up" my ears, by clearing them a couple times at the surface. How I do it is tilt my head so one ear is up, then GENTLY blow while pinching my nose. Then I tilt the other side up and do it again, Then I yawn, this lets the slight pressure out, I do that a couple times until I can use my tongue to open the tubes up. How I use my tongue to open my Estation tubes up is; I create an air pocket back where my tubes are, and constrict the throat/tongue muscles right behind the Jaw. This causes the air to pressurize in the throat and causes the tubes to open. Once I can do that at will I am ready to dive. I find that if I try to swallow, I end up swallowing more air then goes into my ears. What I am doing is sort of a half swallow. With this method, I cannot generate enough pressure to harm my ears, and it works VERY well.

Hope that helps.
 
First, check with your doctor (ideally an ENT that dives) to see what they say. Mine prescribed a daily dose of Claritin D and a steriod nasal spray (Nasonex) that did wonders to help me. Some divers take Sudafed religiously for the same reason ... I think mostly because it's the only medicine whose effects have been studied (and approved) by the Navy for their divers.

You should be able to equalize WITHOUT great force ... you could pop an eardrum or, worse, break the "window" on the choclea and end your diving days forever.

Dairy products are often the culprit ... you might try avoiding these to see if it helps.

All this should allow you to equalize without great pressure on land. The Eustacian tubes are pretty 'lazy' muscles, and you should equalize 20 to 30 times a day just to get them strengthened.

Lastly, make sure you equalize on the surface just before descending, descend head up (makes equalizing easier), and equalize with every breath while descending. Make sure you allow water into your hood before you start. If you STILL have problems try wiggling your jaw side to side or tilting your head side to side while doing the Valvalva maneuver.

Most of all: Stay patient. I've never seen a diver that can't overcome this problem with a little patience and practice.

Good luck!
 
Thanks guys, I will take all of this on board, its great too see so mnay people willing to help! I will definately update you huys later when i over come it!
 
Scuba_Timmy:
Hey all,

I am totally stuck and need some help!

Im undertaking my OW course right now but cant pop my ears to save my life! I know this is frequently asked but I just need a really useful tip.

I have tried every last technique to no avail, last time I attempted too my nose bled for hours and i could barely hear for days..all this happened just on the sand without the prerssure!

If and when I do manage to get some sort of response from the tubes, it feels as if the air stays as a 'lump' in the middle of the tube and NEVER makes it out all the way. This feeling stays for days!

Can anyone provide some actual help, as my instructor says to .."just blow harder!"..YEAH RIGHT! HELP!

There could be any number of reasons that you are having problems, but one of the most common for new divers is that they try too hard. Your eardrum hurts when it bends due to pressure whether it be water pressure pushing it inwards or you using too hard a valsalva menouver pushing it outward. Most students in a pool will equalize once going down 8-10', but the first couple of times in open water, they may equalize several times going down the same depth. The ear starts to hurt and they blow harder making it worst. Next time you have problems, stop for a few seconds but do nothing. Slowly decend a few feet and see if the pain gets better or worst. If the pain goes away, you were bowning too hard or too often. If the pain gets worst, you will have to come up several feet and try again. This is even a problem for experianced divers who do a chamber run for the first time. In a dry chamber you have no idea how deep you are unless you look at a guage. Most chamber runs take you down slower than you expect and many people have problems because they have overdone it.

Also, the eustatian tube is flexible and shifts under pressure. If you wait too long before you start to equalize, the end of the tube will be pushed up against a bone which will block off the opening making equalization impossible no matter how hard you blow. What you must do here is relax, and asscend several feet (to release the pressure) and try again.

Blowing too hard or waiting too long may rupture small blood vessels in the nose or sinus and cause a nose bleed or blood coming down the back of your throat. If you go too deep (as little as 8-10') without equalizing, nature trys to do it for you. Nature trys to balance the presuure by bleeding into the middle ear which may also come down the throat. With this, you often get hissing or crackling as you asscend or descend. After the dive, you will have a fullness sensation in your ear. Many people refer to it as water in the ear (thats what it feels like) but it is probably blood unless actually ruptured the ear drum which usually causes severe dizziness. If this happens you are usually out of diving for a few days as the blood will clot in the tube making it even more difficult to equalize. Decongestant sprays several times a day will help clear these clots. Most doctors recommend against using decongestants prior to diving as many wear off quicker under pressure or the higher PP of oxygen and may cause problems towards the end of the dive. Others may cause an increase in blood pressure. Still others seem to cause higher levels of narcosis at shallower than normal depths. If you use them, definately consult a hyperbaric specialist before hand.

Remember, air is bouyant. Sometimes simply descending feet first is enough to solve the problem as as air will naturally flow up the tube to the middle ear.

The secret is, take it slow and easy and start early. A light puff as you leave the surface and every few feet afterwards is usually best. If it starts to hurt or if you have to blow harder, stop and asscend a few feet first. NEVER hold or breath or try too clear your ears as you asscend. As you come up, the pressure will come off automatically. If you had problems going down, you will often have problems coming up. If you have bleeding on one tube and not the other, the pressure will not be released evenly and you may get slightly dizzy coming up. Just slow your asscent and hopefully hold onto your asscent line if you have one.

If you can equalize on the surface, you can do it in the water. Having said that, if you have a head cold or congestion, try equalizing before putting on your gear or getting on the boat. If you can't do it on thje surface, you'll never do it under water. Hopefully this helps
 
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