Pit bull coming at me, owner screaming "Vicious NO"

[lamont]

Lamont, if you took the time to read the thread, you would see the sources I have posted that say pit bulls have a natural tendency toward dog-aggression.

which is an appeal to authority:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

"It is one method of obtaining propositional knowledge and is a logical fallacy because its method of inference is not rock-solid."

If you don't have any evidence to back up your stance, that's fine. Call it what you will, but declaring that all dogs are identical in their genetic tendency toward aggression is absurd. That's what you believe I guess. But since the only evidence you can post is sad attempts to ridicule me, I'll assume you're pulling your argument out of thin air.

ridiculing others by calling them "politically correct" is sad.

So, since you know so much about real data, post some to support your side. Because until you do, all your "argument" has going for it is the fact that you have never seen pit bull aggression.

your argument so far is just that you've read about it, and you also have no real data.

There's a lot you haven't seen that's still true.

there's a lot you can read about that isn't true. let me know when you've got some data which isn't based on a logical fallacy and don't just want to whine about political correctness and i'll listen to you.

 

[lamont]

The last link was actually some official Pit Bull site and if you go to the "responsible Pit Bull Owner" page it has five criteria. Guess what number one is? Not to breed these dogs. There is an explosion of them, they say. Why? Because a higher percentage of irresponsible people (uncontrolled litters, fighting, neglect, whatever the reason) have an affinity for these dogs. If you know anything about genetics and assume (incorrectly) that they are all starting the same, this factor alone would naturally select for the most aggressive animals to survive.

only if all the owners of pitbulls are irresponsible people. if they're just a minority of the owners that wouldn't cause the entire breed to experience selection pressure to become more agressive.

 

[H2Andy]

two trailer park pit bulls go round the outside
round the outside
round the outside
two trailer park pit bulls go round the outside

guess who's back? back again?
pit bull's back, tell a friend

 

[Humuhumunukunukuapua'a]

your argument so far is just that you've read about it, and you also have no real data.

I guess you're safe from logical fallacies by not making an argument of any sort, then?

What exactly IS your point as it pertains to the original subject, Lamont? Do you have one, or are you just here to say that everyone is wrong, especially if they post supporting evidence for their point?

 

[Cacia]

Lamont, I always had the impression you understood statistical significance, but now I am not so sure. Maybe you just have a big vocabulary....
hmmm, 34, systems engineer, I am baffled, frankly. well, not sure you remember or had the Drosophila and Petunia experiments in Genetics 101. I am not trying to beat you up on this, but there comes a point where if you don't tell people how it is, you are doing them a diservice. And I see where political correctness DOES enter into this, because there are people who think it is mean to say that these dogs overall are more aggressive.

 

[Jamdiver]

Lamont, I always had the impression you understood statistical significance, but now I am not so sure. Maybe you just have a big vocabulary....
hmmm, 34, systems engineer, I am baffled, frankly. well, not sure you remember or had the Drosophila and Petunia experiments in Genetics 101. I am not trying to beat you up on this, but there comes a point where if you don't tell people how it is, you are doing them a diservice. And I see where political correctness DOES enter into this, because there are people who think it is mean to say that these dogs overall are more aggresive

Drosophila melanogaster??

Ahhh memories........, memories :14:.

 

[Cacia]

yea, those! so, I take it you don't want to debate multifactorial genetics of Pit Bulls Jam?...me neither.

 

[Jamdiver]

yea, those! so, I take it you don't want to debate multifactorial genetics of Pit Bulls Jam?

Absolutely no interest .

Carry on......

 

[dlndavid]

I've heard a saying about pit bulls:
"It's not pit bulls, it's their owners".

 

[H2Andy]

oh wow... i heard that too

do you think that's true?

or are the pit bulls born aggressive and you can't control them?