Pi no stamp on tank a little help

[Reti1]

Hello , european friend, I have some tank with this pi no stamp on tank and the check shop refuse to doit they told me I have an other 4 years and the person which is in charge with this in not this months here.They told me this kind of tank is from 10 to 10 years check and restamp.I dont fiind any document for this PI no. I find some document area in ADR goods and transport but only this.In your country is a same. I have only 3 of them with this pi . the rest is from 5 to 5 years like usual...
Thanks!

 

[Reti1]

I read something now, but I ask be cos I want to transport this 3 tanks and dive in Germany , and Uk and I dont now if allow to refill ....this is my concern now. Or to dont risk and take a normal 5 by 5 years with me with available period test...?

 

[Rred]

I'm afraid "pi no" is not translating, at least for me.
This is the "pi" symbol to English speakers: π
with the top bar of the symbol usually curved.

In the US a tank must be DOT certified to be filled, but across the border in Canada that same tank cannot be filled--it would need a Canadian (Transport Canada?) stamp to be legal. If you knew the agency that had stamped your tanks, and what countries that was accepted in, that would help. Once you cross international borders, it your tanks do not have the "local" certification, many shops will not want to touch them. In which case you will have to travel light and rent tanks at your destination.

 

[tursiops]

I'm afraid "pi no" is not translating, at least for me.
This is the "pi" symbol to English speakers: π
with the top bar of the symbol usually curved.

In the US a tank must be DOT certified to be filled, but across the border in Canada that same tank cannot be filled--it would need a Canadian (Transport Canada?) stamp to be legal. If you knew the agency that had stamped your tanks, and what countries that was accepted in, that would help. Once you cross international borders, it your tanks do not have the "local" certification, many shops will not want to touch them. In which case you will have to travel light and rent tanks at your destination.

He actually means "pi number". It is an older tank marking in Europe. See: Typical markings for a permanent gas cylinder according to TPED. See item 11.

 

[tridacna]

@Rred - His post is addressed to his “European Friends”.

 

[Rred]

Ah, then the magic word is TPED?
TPED Directive applies to transportation of dangerous goods – lr.org
And the tanks should be treated equally throughout "Europe", however that is being defined these days?

 

[Reti1]

Exactly. Yes this low I read yesterday.But in my country......only few people new it.SHures the onwer of testing tank now it.My concern is this travel and if the people from scuba club now how to read .I have 300 bari cilinder and I remember I have 10 years from when they produce this tank until I need to retesting, But after that 5 by 5 years I doit.Any way This I ask if in Europe meany of you have conection and now what happen in this case .....I have one months until travel .IS not a problem for me to switch the tank, but is a test ,how people new low ,and if afected this sports , be cos I travel to do some recreational dive .To be honnest niether me I dont now extended period with another 10 years for this reason with no PI. And if i meat on the road an officer for transport autority I dont now if he now.....I own my compressors from 1999 iI fiil with 300 bari from that period is near 20 years .Wat is a problem in my mind with this low is old ,,I mean the date when is on, writing and voted in EU ,and from that time people like me if some body ask when the scuba thank need to be reinspected I answer like a robot 5 by 5. I now is diferent from country to country but I dont expect to be 10 by 10 years. I understand is about the quality of product but how that affect misshandling wrong services, years by years or bad service on compressors?VIP test ?
Maybe is a secret steel? secret treatment on steel? I ask I need to now.
The tank is from 2011 . UK factory.
Meany thanks for this forum .

 

[АлександрД]

IMHO just passed test mark is important for filling station.
I do not know about another countries, but our rules require this form:
(mark) XX YY ZZ
mark - mark of testing station.
XX - Month of testing
YY - year of testing
ZZ - NEXT year of testing.
e.g. (4ц4) 061823 mean: I can use this tank till May 2023. Next testing I should do BEFORE June 2023.
Most tanks we have with 5 years period of testing.

So, If you have testing mark like 061828 - it mean this tank has 10 years period (Tank passport should have this information), and you can use it till May 2028.

EU have the same testing mark (stamp)?

 

[Reti1]

Hello Ma friend, when you buy a new tank you dint have stamp like you say.You have a full year and months. This tank is with Pi ,and CE xxxx mark this is 10 years from production date.This tank when you wont to restamp you need to have a special person to testing and stamp.And luck at law from CE .I upluad tomorrow official paper.And is only intern of European Union.