Peacock open?

[Capt Jim Wyatt]

30 feet/9 m minimum starting visibility

This is the standard that is in the NSS-CDS Standards & Procedures and speaks directly to the minimum starting visiblity for Basic/Intro cave divers. This means that basic/intro cave divers are not to start a cave dive when the visibility is less than 30 feet.

This is a training guideline that people who elect to become trained as cave divers agree to adhere to. It is also the standard that the State of Florida has agreed to adopt when deciding whether or not to allow people to cave dive in the parks they own. They depend upon the NFSA line committee members to look at the conditions and report what we see.

Some of the cave had fairly good visibility, but the places where we know river water intrudes had visibility around 15 feet. The temperatures in these areas dropped to 68F.

We will wait a few days and go look again.

 

[ucfdiver]

I still maintain that if you HAVE to have more than 20 feet of vis to get wet you're being a whiney little girl about it.

I doubt you're going to get this rule changed.

#1- Because you can't even dive there, let alone get people to take your opinion seriously.
#2- Because no one really wants to dive Peacock with 20ft viz anyways when we can wait a month and get 50-75ft where we can see the whole cave.

 

[tstormdiver]

30 feet/9 m minimum starting visibility

This is a training guideline that people who elect to become trained as cave divers agree to adhere to. It is also the standard that the State of Florida has agreed to adopt when deciding whether or not to allow people to cave dive in the parks they own. They depend upon the NFSA line committee members to look at the conditions and report what we see.

I really don't think SWAMPY adheres to anything having to do with safety (or at least talks that way).

 

[SWAMPY459]

30 feet/9 m minimum starting visibility

This is the standard that is in the NSS-CDS Standards & Procedures and speaks directly to the minimum starting visiblity for Basic/Intro cave divers. This means that basic/intro cave divers are not to start a cave dive when the visibility is less than 30 feet.

This is a training guideline that people who elect to become trained as cave divers agree to adhere to. It is also the standard that the State of Florida has agreed to adopt when deciding whether or not to allow people to cave dive in the parks they own. They depend upon the NFSA line committee members to look at the conditions and report what we see.

Some of the cave had fairly good visibility, but the places where we know river water intrudes had visibility around 15 feet. The temperatures in these areas dropped to 68F.

We will wait a few days and go look again.

What about the visibility in orange grove sink for open water divers who do not want to be cave divers? you know there's more to that park than your caves...

I don't really give two hoots about the vis INSIDE the cave

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I really don't think SWAMPY adheres to anything having to do with safety (or at least talks that way).

and you don't know me from adam's housecat.

 

[boulderjohn]

and you don't know me from adam's housecat.

Do we know you from Adam's Housecat? Maybe we do. Maybe we don't.

How do we know anyone? We judge them from the things they do and say, of course.

I don't know that any of us has met you in person, but many of us have met you online. We have come to judge you by the things you write in these forums. If 100% of us are wrong in our assessment of your character because of the conclusions we have drawn from the things you have written, then perhaps it is time to reconsider the things you write.

 

[lv2dive]

What about the visibility in orange grove sink for open water divers who do not want to be cave divers? you know there's more to that park than your caves...

Yes we do know there is more to the park than "our" caves... not sure if there is reading comprehension problem here because this EXACT ISSUE was addressed in post 28... just to make things simple for those among us who who seem to need that sort of support, I'll repost:

...The problem with diving near the mouth of a cave in low vis is that you might accidentally swim in without realizing it. This is especially true if you have a light on to mitigate the loss of light from the turbidity and tannin. You find and swim next to the wall not being able to see that there's another wall just a few feet away forming a cave. The Park has a responsibility to the citizens of Florida to keep an unsafe area closed to those who are too stoopid to know any better. This keeps them alive so that they can complain bitterly on the internet ultimately creating more revenue for me. Again, thanks!

 

[Capt Jim Wyatt]

What about the visibility in orange grove sink for open water divers who do not want to be cave divers? you know there's more to that park than your caves...

I don't really give two hoots about the vis INSIDE the cave

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and you don't know me from adam's housecat.

Please read post # 28, as Kate suggests. Why don't you come to High Springs and you and I meet one another. I often go to Gators Dockside with my mother & wife, perhaps you could meet us there?

It would probably be a good thing if you and I could sit down, face to face and talk.

I did not know Adam even had a cat...

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Jim & others ... why waste your time arguing with this guy ... he already knows everything. This thread will serve as a public record that he was warned if he manages to kill himself and his family decides to blame it on someone else ... the dude has the right to a Darwin Award if he really wants one ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Capt Jim Wyatt]

Jim & others ... why waste your time arguing with this guy ...

My last post was not arguing. I am reaching out to meet him since we live less than 25 miles apart.

 

[The Chairman]

Bob,

When bad information gets posted on ScubaBoard, it's important for us to correct it. While part of it might be to help him out, we just need to make sure that no one else follows his failed logic here. He has indicated that he is taking a cavern course in about a month elsewhere on ScubaBoard. We can only hope that his instructor helps him understand the dangers. Here's a short but lucid video on this topic. Imagine the OW divers having a limited vis outside the cavern and better vis inside. Yikes!

A Deceptively Easy Way to Die​