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PADI vs SSI, from instructor / dive shop owner point of view

Discussion in 'Going Pro' started by vovanx, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Padi #1 by a wide margin, SDI and SSI are close global to each other and depends on market who is bigger regionally. NAUI is far behind them.
     
  2. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    lessbthey are an instructor trainer and can cross over as needed.
     
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  3. cerich

    cerich ScubaBoard Supporter Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Yeah..no. NAUI didn’t recently get knocked out of second unless you think a decade plus ago is recent. I don’t believe that RAID is in the top 5, no chance
     
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  4. sigxbill

    sigxbill Tech Instructor

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    Or the shop owner could look at associating with a smaller agency as a great source of revenue - doing crossovers for his shop. Or I have seen shops do crossovers for instructors for free. Other shop owners might look at issuing smaller agency instructor certs as a captive market advantage for them. Other shops might view associating with a smaller agency as part of their market differentiation. They might promote it as smaller agency xyzzy makes their shop different / better (even if it might not be true) than other shops that all teach a mass produced version of diving.

    The truth is that from the shop owner perspective, associating with a smaller agency is really a non-issue, and can even be looked at as an advantage ... depending on how they sell it ...
     
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  5. Steve_C

    Steve_C Divemaster

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    Did a discover dive in HI and liked it. Helped my wife after some surgery and after she was well she gave me scuba lessons. Shop/Instructor was SDI. Picked because he and his wife were personal friends. After OW I took some more SDI stuff and also some PADI and SSI. Just whatever interested me. Nobody tried to talk me into lots of gear, but then I wanted my own gear from early on so a willing buyer. There were a few specialties that required a small bit of gear; SMB, lift bag, alternative gas supply for SOLO. Had good instructors most of the time and competent all the time. I have seen potential divers walk into all three kinds of shops wanting to talk about getting certified. My impression was that most of them had no real reason why they chose that shop other than the shop was convenient or a friend liked it.
     
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  6. JackD342

    JackD342 Dive Shop

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    It does not come up every time, but I definitely have people inquire about PADI certification. Have never had anyone ask about anything else, except one time regarding a Public Safety training interest.

    Since I am purely PADI part of that can be self fulfilling, but not all of it.
     
  7. wetb4igetinthewater

    wetb4igetinthewater Instructor, Scuba

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    I don’t think anyone can dispute the excellent marketing job that PADI has done.

    No other agency has created in some people’s minds that their agency is equivalent to scuba certification
     
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  8. sigxbill

    sigxbill Tech Instructor

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    I too have had a few people ask me about “getting their padi.” They said it that way because they wanted to demonstrate that they knew a little bit more than nothing about scuba - mistakenly thinking that padi=dive certification. So I just treated them with respect - as I would normally, and acknowledged that they knew something about scuba. I told them, “Great!” And quickly explained that what they really wanted was certification, and that padi was just one of many brands of certification, and I could help them get certified - but under another brand. they have never cared - because they didn’t really know anything about it in the first place. The only other ones that might ask for a specific agency are usually under the mistaken impression that they have to start all over if they switch brands - and when they discover that they don’t have to start over, they usually don’t care either...
     
  9. wetb4igetinthewater

    wetb4igetinthewater Instructor, Scuba

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    In some places (rarely), you have a limited list of agencies that your shop has to be a part. For example, I'm an SDI instructor and plan on opening a dive op in Greece. But in Greece, I cannot just open an SDI shop as they haven't gone through whatever process is required. The two SDI shops I have found on the TDI/SDI website, one is also PADI, the other CMAS.

    But I would expect that Greece is not typical. It just happens to be where I'd like to open an op.
     
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  10. Seaweed Doc

    Seaweed Doc Marine Scientist

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    TAKE ME WITH YOU!

    (Sorry, off topic, mods can delete. It's been a long winter in Seattle.)
     
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