PADI/NAUI Issues with DIR Techniques?

[jeffrey-c]

Does anyone have any perspective on how the major certifying agencies like PADI or NAUI view certain DIR techniques, especially using the 7 foot primary hose and donating the primary regulator? Intellectually I find this technique to make tremendous sense and am planning to adopt this myself, but I wonder if I will run into issues in my next levels of training (like Rescue Diver certification).

 

[Firefyter]

I used the long hose in my NAUI Rescue class and the instructor didn't have a problem with it.

 

[BCS]

Does anyone have any perspective on how the major certifying agencies like PADI or NAUI view certain DIR techniques, especially using the 7 foot primary hose and donating the primary regulator? Intellectually I find this technique to make tremendous sense and am planning to adopt this myself, but I wonder if I will run into issues in my next levels of training (like Rescue Diver certification).

Hi Jeffrey,
I personally don't beleive that there's any conflict whatsoever. BUT...you will find instructors that teach for various agencies that will somehow have issues w/the DIR material. This is a personal translation of the "standards" or in many instances just a misunderstanding/ignorance of thier own agency's standards. I teach for both PADI & GUE and my open water classes are taught in BP/Wing & 7' hose w/necklace backup.
My advice (fwiw) is to find an instructor that is knowledgeable (and I mean beyond what they can read on the Net) of DIR and you will find someone that will allow this setup and most likely uses it themselves.
Hope that helps a bit.

Best Regards,
Brando

 

[StSomewhere]

jbd is a NAUI instructor, and he incorporates the long hose/bungeed backup in his OW instructor rig.

FWIW, he also insists on good buoyancy, trim, weighting, and mastering the modified flutter and frog kick skills for all his OW students.

 

[webjr]

I stress to students that there are many different types of setups for sharing air and to always familiarize themselves with whatever setup their buddy is diving . Long hose , short hose , LPI alternate combo ... as long as they get familiar with it before they actualy need it , that's what counts .

 

[Azza]

My Partner decided she was going to do the PADI Rescue course recently and thought she should leave the BP and long hose at home. She jumped in the pool on the first night complete with jacket BCD and short hose and decided that she just could not do it in unfamiliar equipment. From then on she wore her BP and her long hose.
The instructor didnt have a problem with that.

 

[Otter]

I called PADI and asked about teaching O/W with a HOG rig. Their response was as long as it was with a single tank filled with air, there was no problem.

 

[melfox26]

I called PADI and asked about teaching O/W with a HOG rig. Their response was as long as it was with a single tank filled with air, there was no problem.

Did they specifically say "air"?



Mel

 

[Corigan]

I did my OW with a 7' hose and donated my primary. My instructor had no problems with it.

Matt

 

[Sloth]

I did a SSI rescue course in a BP/W, long hose, and bungie secondary. The only thing I left out was the crotch strap to make it a little easier on the guys that had to remove my gear. The instructor I had didn't have a problem with it.

Personally, I think its a good thing for divers to experience other dive configurations, especially in a rescue course. Sadly, I've ran into some dive instructors that questioned the safety of a REC diver wearing a TEC rig. As if me wearing a backplate was going to somehow influence me to try a deco dive on an alu 80. :sigh:

Mark