P-Valve Questions

[gray_flhxs]

Going to order these. Someone cut me out if I can't get it off! LOL Thanks for the info!

 

[Wibble]

I prefer the Conveens over the Rochester Widebands. The Rochesters do adhere better, but the anti-kinking bellows feature on the Conveens won me over.

Conveens are more convenient. But the teat/tube kinks flat and the glue won't take much back pressure; the glue gives way and it leaks out of the base.

Every failure I've had are Conveens. Never had a failure with Rochester/Bard Widebands -- even if it's kinked, the pressure does slowly release because the thicker tube/teat wall doesn't fold flat. Not comfortable, but still better than soggy undies.

 

[Wibble]

Going to order these. Someone cut me out if I can't get it off! LOL Thanks for the info!

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Size matters.

TL;DR: get the biggest ones available


It's really important to size them. Too big means it won't glue around the shaft without crinkling up or folding over, leaving a path to leak as soon as there's any pressure.

Too small means it ends up like a tortoise pulling the skin over the end! Tried this once when I was given some Conveens that were a size too small. Was a very cold day, so the old chap was hiding away and didn't want to get into the bag! Did the dive and thankfully didn't need a pee as I discovered it hiding away with a lot of skin.

There are sizing templates which you use to measure the diameter of the widest part of your old chap. If you don't know your size, try contacting Rochester/Bard for them to send you a sizing template.

For first time users, kind of recommend you dive without peeing and check that when you get out the catheter's still in place with no crinkles. It's an odd sensation using a pee valve at first, but so so satisfying! The best thing is you can neck a bottle of water before diving so you're fully hydrated -- good for deco and comfort.

 

[gray_flhxs]

Accidentally found the document showing he difference in the BARD catheters. Enjoy.

http://media.bardmedical.com/media/1178/hc_family_brochure_innovationsin_540168.pdf

 

[DDKL]

I’m a fan of the conveens but I trim the end to 2 ribs so it can’t kink…

 

[Wibble]

I’m a fan of the conveens but I trim the end to 2 ribs so it can’t kink…

You can push the 'tube' to ruck up on the barb; same result as trimming the 'tube'. Easy on the Conveens, also possible on the Bard/Rochesters but needs a bigger push.

 

[DougRencher]

2oz syringe. Toss the cath and plug everything back together. Shoot the cleaning juice of your choice through. Rinse. And it will also push air through to empty the lines.

#2, no

#3, go outside and pee on a fence post. aim for the top and aim for the bottom. Which one feels better to you? Do that.

#4 will depend on #3. I actually have an extra disconnect with about 4" of line. This allows for a quick connect up near my belly button. That quick connect is a "dry break"

What is a “Dry Break” type of Quick Disconnect?

 

[Lorenzoid]

What is a “Dry Break” type of Quick Disconnect?

I think he's referring to the type of QD that has a built-in check valve that prevents flow when disconnected.

 

[flymolo]

It’s a tube you pee in. Not sure why it needs a mousetrap in the middle

 

[broncobowsher]

I think he's referring to the type of QD that has a built-in check valve that prevents flow when disconnected.

Correct.
It is useful to keep the contents of the tube from making a mess once it is disconnected. If you enjoy draining a piss tube full of piss over everything when you disconnect it, no need. But if you prefer to keep the disconnect process down to a couple of drops, it works really nice.