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mofosaurus once bubbled...
THE state school won, Miami lost, and all USC could do was watch
The exact same thing happened to PennState in 1995...which is one of the reasons the BCS was created. They were ranked #1 all season until Nebraska beat Oklahome or somebody ranked like 4 or 5. That weekend, Penn State was playing an off scholl and won 63 to 3. They dropped from 1 to 2 in the rankings. They went undefeated and won the Rose Bowl convincingly.

Nebraska played Miami in the "championship game" when Miami already had a loss that season.

College football has always been "unfair", but I think the BCS was right in pitting the onyl 2 undefeated teams last season in the championship game. I agree that at the end of the season last year USC looked awfully damn good, but they didn;t get it done in the beginning of the season and ended up paying for it.
 
Actually....yes...but you being all knowing of course knows more than I.
 
mofosaurus once bubbled...
ideally the BCS should run at least a 8 team playoff

it would take only 3 sets of games to determine a champion

but then the schools would have to share more of the money and why would they do that

with all the upsets this weekend its hard to say the current system is fair to non-member teams

I submitted a proposal to the NCAA for an 8-team playoff system that would incorporate the bowls as the playoff games. They said they liked the idea, but what I needed to do was sent it to all 117 institutions and their administrators. :rolleyes:

BTW -- this was in 1988.
 
an article from today's LA Times





Chris Dufresne:
Rose Bowl Finds a Thorn in BCS


This week's most misleading news bulletin: Six years after it joined the bowl championship series, the Rose Bowl would like to abandon the BCS and return to its traditional format of matching the champions of the Pacific 10 and Big Ten conferences.

The key words are would like and, unfortunately, can't.

"If there was a way to turn back the clock and make everything the way it was, we'd prefer the way it was before," Rose Bowl CEO Mitch Dorger said. "But everything is not the way it was."

While the Rose Bowl did college football a huge favor in 1998 when it agreed to join the BCS, it did the Rose Bowl no favors.

That has become clear with each passing season.

In joining the BCS, the Rose Bowl agreed to host the national-title game every four years and surrender the Pac-10 and/or Big Ten champion to the title game if either of those schools was ranked No. 1 or No. 2.

The Rose Bowl/Pac-10/Big Ten compact had been a stunningly successful partnership dating to 1947.

The Rose Bowl was the final piece in a postseason puzzle that allowed No. 1 and No. 2 to play in an annual championship game. In 1994, for example, undefeated Penn State couldn't play No. 1 Nebraska for the title because the Nittany Lions were contractually bound to the Rose Bowl.

Joining the BCS, however, has been no pregame picnic. The Granddaddy of all bowl games has lost swagger and, more important, power.

After being its own boss for decades, the Rose Bowl is now driftwood on the BCS current.

These have been frustrating and confounding — if not financially fruitful — times, and there is just something strange about the Rose Bowl not having the biggest float in any parade.

Yet, the television truck is too far down the BCS road for the Rose Bowl to reminisce now, and the best the bowl can do is cash pay checks and chip away at the infrastructure.

The Rose Bowl thought it was going to be able to stage a Pac-10/Big Ten matchup in years when it wasn't hosting the national-title game, but that hasn't been the case.

In fact, the last traditional pairing came in the 2001 Rose Bowl, when Washington defeated Purdue.

In 2002, as per its contract, the Rose Bowl hosted the national-title game between Miami and Nebraska.

Last year, the Orange Bowl used a contractual provision to buy its way up in the rotation and steal Iowa to pair against USC in what would have been a classic Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl ended up with Washington State-Oklahoma.

This year, another potential nightmare looms.

Should USC and Ohio State end up No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS standings, the Rose Bowl would have to give up arguably the best Rose Bowl ever to the Sugar Bowl, which is hosting this year's national-title game.

This week, USC is ranked No. 3 in the Associated Press poll, and Ohio State is No. 4.

Dorger is hoping form holds. His dream scenario would be for No. 1 Oklahoma and No. 2 Miami to end up as the top two teams in the BCS and play in the Sugar Bowl, which might leave the Rose Bowl with USC vs. Ohio State.

But even if the Rose Bowl's worst-case scenario is realized, the bowl has few options.

With negotiations to begin next year on the new BCS contract, which expires after the 2005 season, the Rose Bowl has little leverage to leave the BCS.

"To even ask the question of going back is unrealistic," Dorger said. "The larger question is who would you be going back with? We may be going back but without any partners."

The Rose Bowl, Pac-10 and Big Ten have separate contracts with the BCS. The Rose Bowl could pull out, all right, but the Pac-10 and Big Ten would never go along because that would deny their member schools a chance of winning the national title.

Consider that Ohio State only won the championship last year because it was allowed to play No. 1 Miami in the Fiesta Bowl. Under the old system, Ohio State would have played Washington State in the Rose Bowl.

What the Rose Bowl is doing now is trying to win small battles to strengthen its position in the new BCS.

Dorger calls this trying to "get recognition within the system."

Dorger said this week the Rose Bowl has forwarded a proposal to BCS commissioners that would shore up the loophole that allowed Big Ten co-champion Iowa to play in the Orange Bowl last year.

The Rose Bowl was understandably outraged it could not select either of the Big Ten co-champions, Ohio State or Iowa.

Dorger said the new proposal would protect all bowls with "anchor-school" ties, not just the Rose.

"It's the fairest way," Dorger said. "Other people have the same problem."

Dorger said the proposal is being considered by the BCS, and there's a chance it could be enacted this year.

"I believe the Iowa situation is not going to be repeated," Dorger said.

As for the big picture, well, the Rose Bowl is resigned to its football fate.

It may never again call the important shots — the price you pay for joining a club.

Is different bad?

"Different is just different," Dorger said. "It's a different world for all the bowls, including us."

And so the Rose Bowl is left with curious rooting interests.

It wants USC to do well this year — just not too well.

"We wish them great success," Dorger said of the Trojans, "and hope they finish No. 3 in the country."

More Rose

If USC and Ohio State finish 1-2 in the BCS, why couldn't they just play for the national title in the Rose Bowl?

That subject was broached before the Rose Bowl joined the BCS in 1998, but the idea was deemed unworkable.

"That sort of went away because of the logistics," Dorger said. "It's a nice idea, but you need to gear up for the national-title game. You can't just pull it from the Sugar Bowl on Dec. 7. You just can't do it."
 

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