Out of Air at 84 ft

[msandler]

"What happens if you're OOA at 84 feet with no buddy?"

"Well how does that happen?"

"It doesn't matter."

"But you can prevent it with decent buddies and by being a decent buddy"

"I don't care. What do you do?"

"You're not listening."

"So what do you do?"

[some voice in the back of the room] "I'd swim for my buddy!"

"OK, thanks!"

Johnathon, That was hilarious - thanks. -rotfl

Pilot, yep - its hard to gain a concensus here. That is definitely one thing the DIRers managed to acheive... hats off to that at least.

fwiw - I'm in the emergency ascent group. Head for the sky. I won't verbose as I imagine this has been discussed to death.

 

[pilot fish]

Ok, this is what i would like to hear about, what did you take home/realise from this debate PF? I would like to know from others too, obviously there are funnies in the thread, but its nice to know if/what signal got through some of the noise!!

Several things. I did get a lot from this thread. I realized I don't do enough pre dive chat with perspective buddy, that even if they wander off I should follow and again make it clear to stay closer. I also realize that if I do not feel comfortable with a buddy a DM has assingend to me, as was the case once, I should not just take on that buddy. Things like that.

 

[derwoodwithasherwood]

Just ramblin' here:

Since your buddy is your redundant air supply, maybe buddies should be treated like independant doubles. Both breath from one cylinder for 1/3, then swap octopuses (octopii?) and breath from the other fellow's cylinder for 2/3, before swapping back again for a second 3rd during the ascent.

Ok, I admit it adds a certain amount of complication but it would ensure that buddies are never further apart than the length of their LP hose.

 

[simbrooks]

Ok, I admit it adds a certain amount of complication but it would ensure that buddies are never further apart than the length of their LP hose.

So what happens when you are on the long hose (7ft) and the viz is only 3ft, you both swim either side of an obstruction (<1ft wide), it snags both of your regs and pulls them out of your mouth - now what??????

 

[jbd]

Pilotfish,

Regarding the pony bottle. No special certification is needed. Probably the best way to learn how to use one is through mentoring. Dive with folks that mount to the tank and also with folks that sling the tank. Ask questions and hopefully get them to demonstrate how they would use it.

Overall, I think you have learned that prevention of the problem is best (although I suspect you already knew that ).

Also as you have noticed there are options if the scenario should happen. The options should be practiced along with the prevention. Stay calm, keep all options open and available. Make the best buddy selections you can with the circumstances you are presented with.

jbd

 

[The Kraken]

So what happens when you are on the long hose (7ft) and the viz is only 3ft, you both swim either side of an obstruction (<1ft wide), it snags both of your regs and pulls them out of your mouth - now what??????

By golly, Simon, that just well may be the best contender for "Troll of the Year" . . . :11:

Aye, yee're a gutsy lad, indeed . . . !!!!

 

[simbrooks]

By golly, Simon, that just well may be the best contender for "Troll of the Year" . . . :11:

Aye, yee're a gutsy lad, indeed . . . !!!!

Just replying to derwood how you could get in trouble even with his method if you werent careful I dive the long hose, but its 99.9% of the time routed around me rather than deployed - thankfully.

 

[The Kraken]

Just replying to derwood how you could get in trouble even with his method if you werent careful I dive the long hose, but its 99.9% of the time routed around me rather than deployed - thankfully.

I know . . . but it just amuses me (in evidently a rather perverse way) to envision two guys meandering along the bottom with the long hose deployed as if they're just wandering about the bottom sightseeing.

But you know, you just never know!

 

[OE2X]

I know . . . but it just amuses me (in evidently a rather perverse way) to envision two guys meandering along the bottom with the long hose deployed as if they're just wandering about the bottom sightseeing.

But you know, you just never know!

I might just have to try that next time. Now I just need a buddy - Pug? Where's Pug?

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I know . . . but it just amuses me (in evidently a rather perverse way) to envision two guys meandering along the bottom with the long hose deployed as if they're just wandering about the bottom sightseeing.

But you know, you just never know!

Actually, sometimes we do continue a dive while sharing air ... I do it with students at times to help them build a bit of confidence in air-sharing techniques.

But it's not something you'd want to do while drift diving ... :11:

... Bob (Grateful Diver)