opinions on SDI-TDI Tech Courses

[pir8]

AAhhh more of your classic DIR Spiel.... Do IT ourway or you're going to die

 

[JeffG]

AAhhh more of your classic DIR Spiel.... Do IT ourway or you're going to die

boo hoo hoo

 

[dl348]

boo hoo hoo

What a

 

[texdiveguy]

Do deep air if you want to, I don't give a hoot. But if someone is interested in decompression diving they might as well get some sort of card which teaches+allows helium. They'll then have the basis to make informed judgements on maximum END to accept. Personally my max END is 120ish. But that depends on the site/location, I may go shallower. PADI/DSAT and analogs limiting helium to just the highest cert levels are old skool considering NAUI Tech, GUE, and IANTD all have helium in their curriculums in the recreational depth range (<130ft)

Regarding the jumble...
TDI Adv. nitrox gets you 50%, O2 or whatever. But the deco proceedures is a seperate class. Ummm what's the point of that?

I don't consider 'deep air' as 120ft.-IMO I also don't consider entry level tech programs any better because they allow a bit of He in recreational diving depths.

You are correct in that TDI offers both Advanced Nitrox and Decompression Procedures as stand alone courses....I persl. not know of anyone whom has not taken the 2 as a set,,,most instructors/schools suggest this to prospective students.

IMO having completed TDI programs up through Advanced Trimix I have overall found them pretty darn good....always can be improvements in any agencies materials...you just hope the instructor fills in the gaps if you will, and that the student is such motivated to study and learn even outside the given course materials and instruction.

 

[rjack321]

I don't consider 'deep air' as 120ft.-IMO I also don't consider entry level tech programs any better because they allow a bit of He in recreational diving depths.

So having more information and choices for the same general depth range is not valuable?

 

[rjack321]

AAhhh more of your classic DIR Spiel.... Do IT ourway or you're going to die

Who said anything about DIR?

 

[Rainer]

He is only for DIR divers, or did you not get the memo. Sheesh.

 

[texdiveguy]

So having more information and choices for the same general depth range is not valuable?

I think ALL the information in the world is good--I am an avid studier (just wish I could spell better)....IMO just don't see the need to dive He mixes at recreational depths which you indicate 'is just common sense'.

 

[Rainer]

TDI Adv Nitrox / Deco is to 150' correct? Do you think He is worth it at those depths? For divers taking TDI's courses to do 150' dives, do you think it makes sense not to teach He?

 

[Steve R]

So having more information and choices for the same general depth range is not valuable?

From what I was told by the brass when I argued for such a course within TDI (Like what GUE and NAUI has).........No.

Now I don't believe it, in fact I think it's total bull - ****, but that's just my personal opinion.


Rainer:

It makes perfect sense to a whole lot of us, just not to some agencies which are evidently run from 1994 based thinking.




I mean, seriously. I'm OK with the idea that in some places you can only get "air", so deep air courses are still to this day taught, to 180......................what's the deal with the reciprocal thinking not working then?

We have plenty of helium, and dive in places that would highly benefit its use. (Cold, dark etc).

Diving mix vs. air takes no more skill or brains than you should really have anyway at this stage of the game, so most of the arguments against it are moot except the one where they can't nail you for several needless ($$$) classes prior to giving you a mix card.....