Someone informed me about your post about me on this forum. Unfortunately I wasn't able to subscribe to this forum until now.
Dear jetblast00;
Your are claiming that you know me "socially" and that we took the DIR-F class at the same time last winter (you were in the second group of which we heard from that, except for Bill, your guys' performance was really far below standard.) I may have seen you, but I have no idea who you are.
If you really would know me socially, you wouldn't make the statements about me the way you did. It is quite obvious to me that you have your information about me from the diveshop owner who co-organized that class after I brought it to him.
Fact is, that this particular gentleman, although a friend, has a personal disagreement with GUE's training director, which is based solely on a financial issue, and caused IMHO by a
misunderstanding on HIS end.
This resulted in a vendetta, lead by this diveshop owner against
anything GUE/DIR and calls anybody who is not agreeing with this
diveshop owners NEW opinion about GUE/DIR: brainwashed, cultmember, puppet and groupie. You may have heard this yourself when he is referring to anybody who is not joining his anti-GUE battle.
Now, regarding the post that ended up on this list:
A few days before that post in question, I had one of many conversations with that dive-shop owner and had to listen as usual how GUE is burning "all the bridges" and NO-ONE in the tri-state areal will accept the GUE card for Trimix fills and the ONLY boat that still lets GUE certified divers on board is the Wahoo.
THAT discussion made me curious if the diveshop owner says the truth or exaggerates the situation. Hence I started two surveys one regarding local trimix fill stations and local diveboats listed on the Eastern Dive Boat Association's website.
The Seeker was only ONE of the boats I was contacting via email, do YOU understand that?
I posted the results of that survey, including the text of the email I was sending to the diveboats on the Quest list. The original post
contained the responses of several other captains, who were not at all responding in a manner I should have expected according to that diveshop owner's statement.
Danny Crowell of the Seeker obviously and knowingly "bent the truth" on several points (insurance, accredidations, fraudulent actions of GUE), which is NOT my fault and not a "ranting" on my side. Especially since I am quite open for "other" divestyles. BTW, "DIR-Evangelist"? I believe in that system, but I am diving long enough to be more liberal for regular systems, but have often problems to fathom why ESPECIALLY seasoned divers don't see the simplicity and pragmatics approach in that system. I beliveve that for the dives I AM GOING TO DO, the strategies taught by GUE are the best for me and my team.
You said that Danny Crowell just wants to protect his a$$... well, that's B.S. He did let GUE certified divers and instructors dive off his boat. The interest he had with his post is to discredit the training level of GUE divers, scare the hell out of my dive team and go to him to pay big bucks to get Hydronautics divers "re-evaluated" and train NEW divers. That is monetary interest, not to "protect" himself, but to "line his pockets".
George Irvine forwarded my post from the Quest List to Techdiver
and from there it spread out. Obviously cut and that way it ended up on this forum. SeaGypsy crossposted only the "Seeker portion", obviously as an addition you guys had about the Seeker on this forum before.
Lastly, regarding your post of me "ever leaving Dutch Springs and go out on a boat in the ocean", that's so much that diveshop owners stupid argument which is blinded by his emotional attachement to the argument:
I started SCUBA in 1975 with a 10 liter steel tank, plastic backplate and an old Mistral doublehose regulator in Spain. Then I became a member of a sport-divers club under the CMAS umbrella in the city I grew up and became part of the Fenzy-Crowd (if you don't know what the Fenzy was, look it up). Since certification wasn't mandatory in Europe, as long as you are a member of a club, I didn't get certified until 1978 and was member of the youth demo team for SCUBA in 1979. (BTW, the current president of this club still remembers me and was team member as well!)
Since then I accumulated roughly 2,500 dives (probably more and I don't really care), despite a several years break from diving, That was caused through my job and relocation to NYC. Maybe 70 or 80 of those were done in Dutch Springs. I like Dutch for testing new gear, which I accumulated for a while now, and going out there with my wife, who is a new diver and I want her to get more comfortable in the water.
You should know that of course, since you know me socially so well.
As "old friends" you may also be interested to know that, besides being the president of Hydronautics - Diving for Science and Adventure, Inc. I also became the Director of Marine Archaeological Studies of the New York Institute of Anthropology.
To other listmembers: No, I did not inquire for Doria dives. I inquired because researchdivers and myself of the Hydronautics team are in the process of obtaining the GUE Tech certification for deeper projects we are conducting for universities and colleges or other research facilities. Hence we are preparing us for those tasks at hand with, what we believe the best training for our purpose. In the wake of organizing the classes for us, we also facilitate the opportunity to interested divers to take advantage of the time the training director is locally available.
We will have continuously to get some of our new divers into (at least) the Fundamentals class, a requirement for our research divers and will start to work with Bob Sherwood more closely for "local training".
If you or anybody else would like to email me privately regarding any issues raised in this post you can do so at udo@hydronautics.org.
Best regards;
Udo Rotmistrenko
Dear jetblast00;
Your are claiming that you know me "socially" and that we took the DIR-F class at the same time last winter (you were in the second group of which we heard from that, except for Bill, your guys' performance was really far below standard.) I may have seen you, but I have no idea who you are.
If you really would know me socially, you wouldn't make the statements about me the way you did. It is quite obvious to me that you have your information about me from the diveshop owner who co-organized that class after I brought it to him.
Fact is, that this particular gentleman, although a friend, has a personal disagreement with GUE's training director, which is based solely on a financial issue, and caused IMHO by a
misunderstanding on HIS end.
This resulted in a vendetta, lead by this diveshop owner against
anything GUE/DIR and calls anybody who is not agreeing with this
diveshop owners NEW opinion about GUE/DIR: brainwashed, cultmember, puppet and groupie. You may have heard this yourself when he is referring to anybody who is not joining his anti-GUE battle.
Now, regarding the post that ended up on this list:
A few days before that post in question, I had one of many conversations with that dive-shop owner and had to listen as usual how GUE is burning "all the bridges" and NO-ONE in the tri-state areal will accept the GUE card for Trimix fills and the ONLY boat that still lets GUE certified divers on board is the Wahoo.
THAT discussion made me curious if the diveshop owner says the truth or exaggerates the situation. Hence I started two surveys one regarding local trimix fill stations and local diveboats listed on the Eastern Dive Boat Association's website.
The Seeker was only ONE of the boats I was contacting via email, do YOU understand that?
I posted the results of that survey, including the text of the email I was sending to the diveboats on the Quest list. The original post
contained the responses of several other captains, who were not at all responding in a manner I should have expected according to that diveshop owner's statement.
Danny Crowell of the Seeker obviously and knowingly "bent the truth" on several points (insurance, accredidations, fraudulent actions of GUE), which is NOT my fault and not a "ranting" on my side. Especially since I am quite open for "other" divestyles. BTW, "DIR-Evangelist"? I believe in that system, but I am diving long enough to be more liberal for regular systems, but have often problems to fathom why ESPECIALLY seasoned divers don't see the simplicity and pragmatics approach in that system. I beliveve that for the dives I AM GOING TO DO, the strategies taught by GUE are the best for me and my team.
You said that Danny Crowell just wants to protect his a$$... well, that's B.S. He did let GUE certified divers and instructors dive off his boat. The interest he had with his post is to discredit the training level of GUE divers, scare the hell out of my dive team and go to him to pay big bucks to get Hydronautics divers "re-evaluated" and train NEW divers. That is monetary interest, not to "protect" himself, but to "line his pockets".
George Irvine forwarded my post from the Quest List to Techdiver
and from there it spread out. Obviously cut and that way it ended up on this forum. SeaGypsy crossposted only the "Seeker portion", obviously as an addition you guys had about the Seeker on this forum before.
Lastly, regarding your post of me "ever leaving Dutch Springs and go out on a boat in the ocean", that's so much that diveshop owners stupid argument which is blinded by his emotional attachement to the argument:
I started SCUBA in 1975 with a 10 liter steel tank, plastic backplate and an old Mistral doublehose regulator in Spain. Then I became a member of a sport-divers club under the CMAS umbrella in the city I grew up and became part of the Fenzy-Crowd (if you don't know what the Fenzy was, look it up). Since certification wasn't mandatory in Europe, as long as you are a member of a club, I didn't get certified until 1978 and was member of the youth demo team for SCUBA in 1979. (BTW, the current president of this club still remembers me and was team member as well!)
Since then I accumulated roughly 2,500 dives (probably more and I don't really care), despite a several years break from diving, That was caused through my job and relocation to NYC. Maybe 70 or 80 of those were done in Dutch Springs. I like Dutch for testing new gear, which I accumulated for a while now, and going out there with my wife, who is a new diver and I want her to get more comfortable in the water.
You should know that of course, since you know me socially so well.
As "old friends" you may also be interested to know that, besides being the president of Hydronautics - Diving for Science and Adventure, Inc. I also became the Director of Marine Archaeological Studies of the New York Institute of Anthropology.
To other listmembers: No, I did not inquire for Doria dives. I inquired because researchdivers and myself of the Hydronautics team are in the process of obtaining the GUE Tech certification for deeper projects we are conducting for universities and colleges or other research facilities. Hence we are preparing us for those tasks at hand with, what we believe the best training for our purpose. In the wake of organizing the classes for us, we also facilitate the opportunity to interested divers to take advantage of the time the training director is locally available.
We will have continuously to get some of our new divers into (at least) the Fundamentals class, a requirement for our research divers and will start to work with Bob Sherwood more closely for "local training".
If you or anybody else would like to email me privately regarding any issues raised in this post you can do so at udo@hydronautics.org.
Best regards;
Udo Rotmistrenko
