Olive oil in ears, pre-dive?

[Harley1962]

Old Testament, the Hebrew Bible...

Right on, Gary! Of course, in a typical American-based Forum, most people are only thinking within their range of knowledge and experience; of course, I should have said "the most read book in the history of the NON-Muslim World", but for that matter I doubt that Vlad (or few on this forum) have actually read the Koran & Old Testament, let alone in their ORIGINAL languages (Hebrew, Arabic), two of 6 languages that I DO speak.

As for scientific data, read the Bible (in Hebrew) and then look at the CDC report from Jan-Feb 2002 documenting a clear relationship between topical application of essential oils, spices, and herbs for various skin and muscular ailments, and it is not far off from our topic here.

But as usual, there are always those that like to doubt and dispute everything---especially when they can just do it from the anonymity of their computer.

As someone that has lived/worked in 7 countries, and speaks several languages I sincerely believe it behooves one to try to keep an open mind where medicine and healing is concerned. That's one of the reasons why I live and work in Asia--aside from the great diving!

 

[jupitermermaid]

Olive oil is an additive to fungal culture medium to grow Malassezia furfur, a yeast that causes ear infection, seborrheic dermatitis, and tinea versicolor in human. This organism is extremely hard to grow, until you cover the culture with a thin layer of olive oil.

That explains a lot! Whenever I feel an ear infection coming on I'd warm up some olive oil, soak a cotton ball in it and place it in my ears for several minutes. It not only didn't help, but several times I ended up in the ENT's office. He told me to NEVER, under ANY circumstance put anything in my ears (he put two kids through college due to people correcting their own ear problems). :11:

I now own a Pro Ear 2000 that covers my ears and protects them from bacteria in the water, as well as keeping them dry. I'm also going to try the diving ear plugs along with the mask to see if double protection will save more dives for me. I'll let you know how it works.

 

[DandyDon]

Harley, I do hope you enjoy SB and enjoy contributing to it. I have a hunch you could...

Right on, Gary! Of course, in a typical American-based Forum, most people are only thinking within their range of knowledge and experience; of course, I should have said "the most read book in the history of the NON-Muslim World", but for that matter I doubt that Vlad (or few on this forum) have actually read the Koran & Old Testament, let alone in their ORIGINAL languages (Hebrew, Arabic), two of 6 languages that I DO speak.

Wellllll I have read some of both, didn't believe much of either one. I don't think we want to argue those here.

As for scientific data, read the Bible (in Hebrew) and then look at the CDC report from Jan-Feb 2002 documenting a clear relationship between topical application of essential oils, spices, and herbs for various skin and muscular ailments, and it is not far off from our topic here.

I don't think any version of the Bible will hold up as scientific data, but if you want to offer information from the CDC, that'd be nice. If you are suggesting that anyone is lacking for not already knowing that particular information here, I disagree. It is customary to offer excerpts and links to sites that support new information being offered, if you have any?

But as usual, there are always those that like to doubt and dispute everything---especially when they can just do it from the anonymity of their computer.

Nothing anonymous here. You're new here, but I am far from anonymous - I just don't include all my info on my public profile for the data miners we get, and I am quite open to new information supported by facts. If I can help you with inserting any that you may have, do let me know.

As someone that has lived/worked in 7 countries, and speaks several languages I sincerely believe it behooves one to try to keep an open mind where medicine and healing is concerned. That's one of the reasons why I live and work in Asia--aside from the great diving!

If our minds were closed we wouldn't still be reading, much less posting, but you have yet to offer any facts? If you have any, or links, please do add them here. I'm still wondering of anyone has scientifically established any benefit to putting any oils in ears? Perhaps so, and if so - I'd be interested...?

That explains a lot! Whenever I feel an ear infection coming on I'd warm up some olive oil, soak a cotton ball in it and place it in my ears for several minutes. It not only didn't help, but several times I ended up in the ENT's office. He told me to NEVER, under ANY circumstance put anything in my ears (he put two kids through college due to people correcting their own ear problems). :11:

I now own a Pro Ear 2000 that covers my ears and protects them from bacteria in the water, as well as keeping them dry. I'm also going to try the diving ear plugs along with the mask to see if double protection will save more dives for me. I'll let you know how it works.

May I ask where you got that idea? I have not seen an ENT in many years, but my grandson recently had ear tube surgery - and when I asked his ENT what to use in his ears for swimming, he said alcohol & vinegar.

I did a google on "olive oil" ears, and I do see some references with regard to insect or wax removal, but none for ear aches or swimming? Most of the sources suggesting olive oild were a little questionable, some had to do with ear candeling!

I also google for cdc "olive oil" earsand found one publication Malassezia pachydermatis Carriage in Dog Owners | CDC EID

 

[jupitermermaid]

I've heard of ear candling, but after my lecture from my ENT I decided to go with just the drops he prescribes for me and sticking with my Pro Ear 2000 for diving to keep the ears dry. The alcohol and vinegar will dry up any fluid being retained in the ear canal, but will not rid the ear of any bacterial infection. In fact, my ENT said that too much vinegar and alcohol could dry up the ear too much and cause dermatitis. It could have been my own condition that he was referring to , as I've heard a lot of people benefit from the mixture. I have multiple ear conditions that he would prefer I don't try to cure on my own.

 

[DandyDon]

I think ear candling is known as quackery. Why Ear Candling Is Not a Good Idea

It could have been my own condition that he was referring to , as I've heard a lot of people benefit from the mixture. I have multiple ear conditions that he would prefer I don't try to cure on my own.

Quite possibly, and I'd certainly agree with you following his suggestions closely.

 

[vladimir]

While I have been on Scubaboard, the medical professionals here have probably devoted half their posts to dispensing information and the other half to dispelling misinformation and quackery. We are lucky to have the benefit of their expertise and their patience.

 

[tridacna]

Right on, Gary! Of course, in a typical American-based Forum, most people are only thinking within their range of knowledge and experience; of course, I should have said "the most read book in the history of the NON-Muslim World", but for that matter I doubt that Vlad (or few on this forum) have actually read the Koran & Old Testament, let alone in their ORIGINAL languages (Hebrew, Arabic), two of 6 languages that I DO speak.

As for scientific data, read the Bible (in Hebrew) and then look at the CDC report from Jan-Feb 2002 documenting a clear relationship between topical application of essential oils, spices, and herbs for various skin and muscular ailments, and it is not far off from our topic here.


As someone that has lived/worked in 7 countries, and speaks several languages I sincerely believe it behooves one to try to keep an open mind where medicine and healing is concerned. That's one of the reasons why I live and work in Asia--aside from the great diving!

Gee, I speak eight languages including Hebrew, Arabic and written Aramaic and have yet to discover anything of scientific value in either the bible or the Koran. I guess that we could deduce many scientific facts from Tolstoy, Enid Blyton or even Voltaire using your logic. (You'll be delighted to see that non are American).

I personally keep a very open mind with regard to alternative science or medicine but not so open that my brain falls out.

 

[audission]

Swim Ear, post dive.

Olive oil belongs on salads

 

[garyfotodiver]

Gee, I speak eight languages including Hebrew, Arabic and written Aramaic and have yet to discover anything of scientific value in either the bible or the Koran. I guess that we could deduce many scientific facts from Tolstoy, Enid Blyton or even Voltaire using your logic. (You'll be delighted to see that non are American).

I personally keep a very open mind with regard to alternative science or medicine but not so open that my brain falls out.

Then I commend you to, among other citations, Mishna Shabbat, perek bet, posuk bet. Sorry, but I do not have a Hebrew font in this WP. And I cannot remember the citation in Humash where Moshe instructs the Bnai Yisrael to keep a place outside the camp (hutz l'machena) for personal business.

Maimonides was the court physician to a muslim caliph.

The Jewish ghettos suffered much less form the ravages of medieval bubonic plague, mainly due to better hygiene.

The worst kind of dogmatists are those scientists who refuse to accept there may be other information available besides that which they believe.

 

[fisherdvm]

It is good to keep an open mind. We have to constantly remind ourselves that the medical community do a 180 turn and it is not always good to remain on the band wagon.

Louis Pasteur had a hard time convincing doctors to wash their hands before delivering a baby, until he definitively proved that it greatly reduced post partum infection - by simply washing your hands.

We do need to look at other sources for information aside from the medical literature. But I still stand with main stream medicine on most issue.