neutral without the aid of a BC

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Thanks for answering my questions, I might look into trying this sometime if I run into a group of divers like you and Paladin :)

Show up at the Legends of Diving meet at Portage, Ohio, next month and you'll meet a bunch! They're a great bunch of people and you might even get to try out a double hose regulator! Unfortunately, I'm having cervical fusion surgery done on August 9 and that's keeping me from attending. I'll be there next year with bells on!

My avatar photo was actually taken at Portage during a past LoD meet.
 
It's sort of ironic that there was a push back from most divers regarding introduction of BCs, and now the general consensus is that it isn't possible to dive without a BC :)

A lot of things are like that. Automatic transmissions, power brakes, power steering, cell phones, before cell phones it was answering machines, computers, texting, facebook...
How the hell were we able to even live??
 
No BC diving is something I do quite often, including around 15 dives in the last 5 days, 3 today. The first suggestion I have if you want to learn how it's done is to totally ignore anyone who does not actually dive that way on a regular basis. Not to be crude but they have no idea of what they are talking about. Comments like "aluminum tanks get light and you can't control the swing" pretty much tells me they have no clue. 80 cf of gas is 80 cf of gas and has a 4 to 5 lb swing depending on how low you drain a tank. The buoyancy swing of 1 cf of gas is exactly the same regardless of the tank material. Granted the tank material and size do have a major impact on your total weighting but the tank material has no impact on the overall buoyancy swing of a tank. As a matter of fact, I dive al tanks almost exclusively in warm fresh water because of their buoyancy characteristics, steels over weight me. I could use steels in warm salt water but since most places rent AL-80s I have to add weights to offset the AL tank....I use 4 lbs of lead in salt water. I rarely dive sans BC in cold water so I will yield to ZYK's expertise for cold water but in water that is 70+ deg I dive sans BC almost exclusively unless I am working with a class. The idea that you cannot hover nor do safety stops is pure BS. I do it all the time, including safety stops and looking at fish today. I also carry a camera a lot of the time which requires near perfect buoyancy control, I do it with no BC and usually a double hose reg with no problems. It’s all about proper weighting, trim and breathing control. Breath control is a lot more than simply inhaling and/or exhaling deeply. The depth of your breath is important but cadence and timing play as much of a role as breathing depth. Don't get me wrong, I do wear a BC when I see the need, like diving way off shore when I may need the BC to act as surface floatation if I get away from the dive boat or when diving in very cold water with thick wetsuits and I don't want to mess with rocks or dropping weights but the idea that its difficult or you can not control your bouyancy is completley untrue.....or I have been doing the impossible for the last 5 days..
 
You would do well to listen to Herman's advise. I was fortunate enough to join him and one of his DH buddies back around my 60th dive. Watching them ascend and descend at will was truly educational. There is a "basketball court" at the site with 2 goals and bowling balls. Watching them pick up balls from the bottom and rise up to drop them through the hoop while maintaining perfect buoyancy was a big eye opener for me. Now I add/vent air from my BC as little as possible. This was a great help for me in getting a handle on my buoyancy control. Thanks again Herman and Henry.
 

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