Need help choosing a donut wing.

[hedgehog47]

I did order this wing but haven't used it yet. Its a 30lb wing, donut. Is smaller than my diverite and more rounded. However when attaching it to the STA I have, there's a gap between the tank and the wing, and another gap between the plate and the wing.

I got it from dixie divers and was told it can thread directly to the backplate, but others have told me this will cause the tank to move around while diving.

When it's attached to the STA I can rotate it 15 degrees or so in either direction.

It has the open center center with just the one peice of webbing, like my diverite.

 

[Dr. Lecter]

If you want to try an 18lb wing, I'd suggest an old Halcyon batwing rather than a donut. They're significantly cheaper and the tapered horseshoe shape is more streamlined...which is sort of the whole point of that kind of high speed/low drag tiny wing.

 

[divad]

Never mind.

 

[tbone1004]

many divers use the small 18lb wings in a balanced rig using no neoprene. Could be a LP72, AL80, etc, but nothing with more air than that. Many of us also dive without one. Not uncommon for me to dive without a wing in the keys. Most of the time a 25-30lb wing isn't big enough to cause any harm.

Don't put bungee over the wing, won't do any good and is a problem with oral inflation. The Venture wing should have a tap on the bottom and you can tie that down to the waist strap or into the backplate.

With an STA, the wing shouldn't move anywhere, without an STA you need to use sex bolts to bolt it to the plate and then it won't move. The wings are designed to be used on the Transpacs as well as plates and to use them on the transpacs, they have to have the small center section to thread the cam bands. The full answer is here

[video=youtube;DxjrOhfns-A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxjrOhfns-A[/video]

Your other thread said you feel you are foot heavy, you are foot heavy with a wing that has most of the lift at the bottom of the wing and you are looking at wings like the Halcyon, DRiS Trianta, and the one you purchased that have more lift at the top of the wing. Counterproductive

 

[RJP]

thanks. So how do people get by using the smaller travel wing's ? Some people must use them

AL tanks... and a drysuit.

 

[hedgehog47]

that one I got, I am returning it. not happy with it.

 

[danvolker]

thanks. So how do people get by using the smaller travel wing's ? Some people must use them

I have been using the 18 pound lift Halcyon with, with an hp120 tank....I use a steel back plate, but if you were wanting less weight, you could use an Al backplate....I have been diving with a 3 mil freedive wetsuit, and don't use any added weight....the suit has very little buoyancy....maybe 4 or 5 pounds max....so at 140 feet the amount of air I blow into the wing is not that much more than at 80 feet.

If I fully inflated at depth, the wing would pull me up much faster than I would ever ascend---and I don't use the wing for an elevator--I just keep my body neutral....with the exception of when I jump in off the boat, for a hot drop--then the wing has all the air sucked out, and I go down as negative as possible.

The 18 pound wing is very low drag, so it is my choice for all my recreational dives...when I use dual 80's, I use a 40 pound halcyon wing.

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

18 lbs. is not too small for 5 mil suit and less IMO.
I also depends how you weight yourself. If you're weighted to the point where when you're coming up with a near empty tank at the end of a dive and have to hold a bunch of air in your wing at your 15' stop then you're overweighted. You should be able to hold a 15' stop at the end of a dive with a near empty tank with no air in your bc (wing) and control your stop with breathing alone. If you can do this then you know you are properly weighted.
I used to dive with a steel 120, s/s backplate, weightbelt (can't remember the exact weight) and a two piece 7mm farmer john in cold water and was able to get away with using an 18 lb wing. The only thing I couldn't do was float my rig on the surface with a full tank, but with the whole combo and balance of all weighted components I could sit at 15' at the end of the dive perfect with no air in the wing.
The only thing I needed the wing for was to take the edge off at depth, but I also trained myself to be able to dive with no BC even in my 7 mil so any form of lift is a luxury and icing on the cake to me.
Look into Oxycheq Mach V. caveadventurers.com has them.
But in your case you might want to also look into the 30 Lb. Looking at the two side by side there's not much size difference.

 

[hedgehog47]

I've been told without using a single tank adapter (regardless whether the sex bolts line up)
that the TANK will slide around. I don't see how if the cam bands go THROUGH the slots in the plate and through slots in the wing (assuming we're talking about a wing with cam band slots in it) how this can be possible.

many divers use the small 18lb wings in a balanced rig using no neoprene. Could be a LP72, AL80, etc, but nothing with more air than that. Many of us also dive without one. Not uncommon for me to dive without a wing in the keys. Most of the time a 25-30lb wing isn't big enough to cause any harm.

Don't put bungee over the wing, won't do any good and is a problem with oral inflation. The Venture wing should have a tap on the bottom and you can tie that down to the waist strap or into the backplate.

With an STA, the wing shouldn't move anywhere, without an STA you need to use sex bolts to bolt it to the plate and then it won't move. The wings are designed to be used on the Transpacs as well as plates and to use them on the transpacs, they have to have the small center section to thread the cam bands. The full answer is here

[video=youtube;DxjrOhfns-A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxjrOhfns-A[/video]

Your other thread said you feel you are foot heavy, you are foot heavy with a wing that has most of the lift at the bottom of the wing and you are looking at wings like the Halcyon, DRiS Trianta, and the one you purchased that have more lift at the top of the wing. Counterproductive

 

[Dirty-Dog]

I've never used an STA, nor have I had any issues with the tank sliding around with a Dive Rite SS BP and Travel Wing.


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