Navy Admits Sonar Use

[Quarrior]

Just saw this on the Washington Post on-line. Here's the link.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47256-2004Aug30.html

Brian

Edit: Just found out the link does not work unless you are a Post member. See my later posting in this thread where I placed a copy of the entire article.

Brian

 

[SubMariner]

Just saw this on the Washington Post on-line. Here's the link.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47256-2004Aug30.html

Brian

Brian, you can't use the link unless you register as a member of the Washington Post.

 

[Quarrior]

Figures. I'll get the article and paste it in.

Brian, you can't use the link unless you register as a member of the Washington Post.

 

[SubMariner]

Much appreciated, Q.

Really gest you thinking, doesn't it?

 

[drbill]

Posting a copyrighted story from another source could make SB liable for copyright violation. Of course I'm glad I got to read the story.

Doc

 

[RIDIVER501]

Amazing how when I was growing up in the mid to late 70's all the marine mammal beachings were attributed to some viral or parasitic infection as verified by some autopsy methodology.
and these days there seems to be no apparant cause but it must be attibuted to sonars.
Funny in the late 80's and all through the 90's the ships i was on used to hammer away with active sonar practicing against the potential soviet threat. training in the caribbean and in the virginia capes op area, where there are lots of marine mammals and there never seemed to be a problem with our operations.
Well i guess with everything views have to shift. same in the environmentalist venues. like how rampant the reporting was on acid rain and nowadays when you mention it most people say " Acid who? are they that new band...."

 

[renpirate]

From what I have read the new sonars are much more powerful than the older ones. I have read about several studies that have mentioned the newer sonars as being more dangerous to marine life. However, the Navy does have a point about those quiet diesel boats, they can sneak up on a carrier battle group or get real close to our shores and they are difficult to detect. I guess one solution would be to have the Navy train in those dead zones that are starting to pop up around the ocean, which are devoid of marine life. We still need to study why that is happening, but perhaps it could be the silver lining behind the dark cloud.

 

[archman]

I'd have to agree with ridiver, the navies of the world have been using active sonar for over fifty years. And during the Cold War we used it far more frequently than we do today. Yet where's the marine mammal stranding reports from back then? It's not like there weren't marine labs or reporting agencies.

I have yet to read one conclusive report linking marine mammal strandings to sonar activity. I am not sure any such reports exist.

 

[renpirate]

I'd have to agree with ridiver, the navies of the world have been using active sonar for over fifty years. And during the Cold War we used it far more frequently than we do today. Yet where's the marine mammal stranding reports from back then? It's not like there weren't marine labs or reporting agencies.

I have yet to read one conclusive report linking marine mammal strandings to sonar activity. I am not sure any such reports exist.

Here is a link to some of those exisiting studies
http://www.oceanmammalinst.com/marinemammals-lfas-fact-sheet.htm

 

[dlndavid]

You are using up good air. I want no harm to be done to whales or any other creature due to sonar, but this is junk science. Whales and dolphins have been beaching themselves for longer than sonar. Ask somebody from Hawaii. Stop theblame America first, IT IS GETTING OLD.