NACD By-Law Committee

[Hetland]

So you missed this point:

The By-law committee are being asked to review and comment on all NACD By-laws making recommendations of any needed amendments, additions or deletions. The By-law committee shall pay close attention to NACD organizational structure, BoD requirements,Compliance to Federal, State and IRS laws as to maintain the 501(c) status. Additionally where applicable to consider the by-laws as suitable to meet an international membership. By-laws having recommendations for amendment, addition or deletion must state the reason for such amendment, addition or deletion.

I see them; The lawyers as not part of the committee but as advisers to the committee, working with the by-law committee as a resource.
Tell us why this is an issue?
Also maybe you could explain why seeking international opinion is also an issue?

I think going international tells non-Florida members they have a say in the agency and moves away from what is the Florida centric but systemic ol'boys club

To the contrary, I see the point very clearly. The membership has no vehicle for changing either the by-laws, or the BOD. How many voting members are left in the organization? What percentage of that number live within 100 miles of the polling place? Why can't ballots be submitted by mail (to a disinterested 3rd party)? This is all very easy to change. Instead you're going to hang a legal Sword of Damocles over the committee, and put the NACD's lawyer in the room to record every utterance.

Do you not see that this shows a lack of both trust and respect for your committee?

Just do whatever you want with the by-laws, and keep doing what you're doing, don't waste people's time working on by-law suggestions that they have no power to implement.

 

[bamafan]

You didn't get your cookie yet did you?

I want and must have total control!

Seriously though I have to be open to new ideas, things change. Some items are generic and will likely remain. Other items are in need of updating. I acknowledge this fact.

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All above the highlighted "bold" is noted. However where are you getting that the NACD is against Sidemount and Rebreather training?

From the NACD News Release and note who receives credit here:

"During his time Rob has worked reviewing the NACDtraining standards, developed a sidemount program and initiated a pilot Rebreather Program.These programs will continue."

Since I myself instruct sidemount and looking to build RB time for instruction AND this initiate of the by-law committee is not the only one on going. I would have to say your statement is false.

Well you sure got all upset in your charges against Rob for teaching a sidemount class. The exact charges were damaging the cave if I recall correctly. You refrenced his video that looked like a class preparing people to actually sidemount and not just dive in a sidemount configuration what are we supposed to think? As far as rebreathers who on the BoD teaches them? Does your acting TD Larry Green sidemount or dive a rebreather? You can say what you want but actions speak louder than words.

 

[Jax]

Dude, c'mon! Take it to the instructor thread. I'm not happy about the NACD and the way it's been run, but at lease someone is talking. Let's keep it on course.

Well you sure got all upset in your charges against Rob for teaching a sidemount class. The exact charges were damaging the cave if I recall correctly. You refrenced his video that looked like a class preparing people to actually sidemount and not just dive in a sidemount configuration what are we supposed to think? As far as rebreathers who on the BoD teaches them? Does your acting TD Larry Green sidemount or dive a rebreather? You can say what you want but actions speak louder than words.

 

[tursiops]

Dude, c'mon! Take it to the instructor thread. I'm not happy about the NACD and the way it's been run, but at lease someone is talking. Let's keep it on course.

This is not talking. It is delaying and stonewalling. Exactly what the members are upset about is continuing with this committee. Too bad, it was a chance to start a new course, but this course is on the same flawed and failed path, leading nowhere.

 

[Jax]

And with that, the thread died.

 

[nakatomi]

And with that, the thread died.

Are you surprised Jax?

 

[DeepSea]

And with that, the thread died.

The BOD simply waits it out as the "members" do nothing but fund their training organizations.

 

[Hetland]

The BOD simply waits it out as the "members" do nothing but fund their training organizations.

How many members do they have? It looks like there's only one Committee Chair, and two Committees without any members at all. It also looks like they're not even going to bother filling the vacant spots on the Board.

 

[Jax]

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