my bouyancy sucks, going to take a private session, HELP!

[mala]

he gave me a book but didn't tell me I had to read it.....

made me chuckle.

keep diving dude.

 

[Mikko Ilari Laakkonen]

I have had dozens if students coming to my classes with an amazed look on their faces "i was supposed to read the book you gave me????" Lately i have done myself and the students a favor by postponing them to next available class. And i make sure that the students are told several times before classes that the books are actually meabt to be read.

- Mikko Laakkonen -

I love diving and teaching others to dive.

 

[DivemasterDennis]

It is good the OP is getting additional training, but just as in his first class, he has not prepared for the sessions. Reading and understanding the material woulsd go a long way to the training dives having more meaning and positive corrective effect. The fact he posts the question he does, and the way he does, suggests he is further looking to cut corners and just "get to it." Buoyancy control is an an ongoing learning experience, on dive 5, dive 10, and dive 100. Proper weighting and bc trimming change with equipment changes, body changes, and condition changes. There will never be a set "formula. Do weight checks, log your dives including equipment used and your weight and body "shape," together with location and conditions, and after about 60 to 100 entries you will have good weighting chart. Also, next time you take a class, take it all. Read the materials, do the reviews, then engage the instructor and do the training dives. Take the class to IMPROVE and LEARN, not just get a new patch for your scuba jacket.
DivemasterDennis

 

[LowDrag]

I agree with j_b78, supergaijin & DivemasterDennis on this one. My first thought was, "why didn't you read the material?" When I went thru OW, I was amazed at how many people did not read the book. My wife and I were able to answer questions in class while other students just sat there with blank looks on their faces. I am not trying to brag but come on...READ THE MATERIAL!!! After all, you probably paid a pretty price for your classes, you should read the material. I read the material for Nav in my AOW class but I feel I still need some assistance with it. When we went to do our night and nav dives I asked my instructor if we could do some more class time because I did not feel ready for it. He was fine with that and we have set up a time to go over the material again.
You have to read the material and prepare for the class otherwise why would there be a book passed out with your instruction materials???

Good luck getting your buoyancy down. I work on mine every time I go out.

 

[TSandM]

I agree that, after the first experience, the OP should have learned to read the books.

But I read every word of every book we got, for OW, AOW and specialties. And very little of it helped me develop good buoyancy. Not enough is written about it, and not enough that's written is practical. You can read about how to weight yourself properly . . . but where will you find a discussion of the concept of a breath-control buoyancy window? Where will you find the explanation for why being out of trim requires the diver not to be neutral? These things are not in the textbooks. They ARE here on ScubaBoard, albeit scattered through various threads. They ARE on websites like deepseasherpa.com and divedir.com, and on DevonDiver's website.

I think the OP made a very good decision to come here and ask for help. There is SO much more to good diving skill than you can get from the books.

Of course, if he doesn't read the websites, either, then there isn't much to be done

 

[supergaijin]

One way not to develop good buoyancy is to be in a classroom reading a manual for the first time...

 

[mangoconchile]

Look, I know I should have read the chapter. Yes this was a mistake. Can we move on from this? It's beside the point as the chapter won't teach you everything. Had I read the chapter before taking the class I still would have started this thread asking the same questions. I'd rather get some different answers/opinions from actual divers as oppose to reading a chapter. Besides, everything I learned from books came from PADI. Curious to know if other diving organizations teach anything differently from PADI in regard to buoyancy.

 

[smokin3000gt]

I agree with j_b78, supergaijin & DivemasterDennis on this one. My first thought was, "why didn't you read the material?" When I went thru OW, I was amazed at how many people did not read the book. My wife and I were able to answer questions in class while other students just sat there with blank looks on their faces. I am not trying to brag but come on...READ THE MATERIAL!!! After all, you probably paid a pretty price for your classes, you should read the material. I read the material for Nav in my AOW class but I feel I still need some assistance with it. When we went to do our night and nav dives I asked my instructor if we could do some more class time because I did not feel ready for it. He was fine with that and we have set up a time to go over the material again.
You have to read the material and prepare for the class otherwise why would there be a book passed out with your instruction materials???

Good luck getting your buoyancy down. I work on mine every time I go out.

Agreed. Especially when the purpose of taking the AOW class (in the OPs case) is because he he didn't read the chapter. After that, I don't understand why anyone would take the AOW class and again not read the material. Then again blame the instructors. You would think whether told or not, you would read the buoyancy chapter since that is why you're taking the class and you already know there is a buoyancy dive. I just don't understand some people..

 

[mangoconchile]

I agree that, after the first experience, the OP should have learned to read the books.

But I read every word of every book we got, for OW, AOW and specialties. And very little of it helped me develop good buoyancy. Not enough is written about it, and not enough that's written is practical. You can read about how to weight yourself properly . . . but where will you find a discussion of the concept of a breath-control buoyancy window? Where will you find the explanation for why being out of trim requires the diver not to be neutral? These things are not in the textbooks. They ARE here on ScubaBoard, albeit scattered through various threads. They ARE on websites like deepseasherpa.com and divedir.com, and on DevonDiver's website.

Exactly, the book doesn't go into TRIM very much if at all. During the class it was not mentioned, even though its important to understand. Stuff like this is why I started the thread, to go over any information the book or class might have missed.

 

[Mikko Ilari Laakkonen]

A decent instructor will go through these in classroom unless all classroom time is spent on reading the basics from the book that should have been done before the class.

- Mikko Laakkonen -

I love diving and teaching others to dive.

---------- Post added November 17th, 2013 at 09:55 PM ----------

And i think there is one half of a page in padi ow book about streamlining (trim)

- Mikko Laakkonen -

I love diving and teaching others to dive.