Mouthpiece detached - video clip

[LKING3]

Glad I checked in on this one...Good discussion guys, I've learned something from this and video.

thanks

 

[kadleck]

I humbly suggest that you read all of the comments (there are not too many!) attached to the utube video. The photographer makes many replies to questions regarding this situation.

The really surprising thing is that the reason she grabbed the reg from his mouth was that he had suffered the same failure before the dive and they still continued the dive with him minus redundancy!. That's error number one right there.

 

[Thalassamania]

I read it all, it frankly sounded to me like one poorly trained diver making excuses for another poorly trained diver. I find no excuse possible for the incident, I do find a cause for the incident which is best described as a lack of training and experience.

 

[TweakHP]

Ya thats scary....for her and her partner...you'd think after basic training you wouldn't panic like that. but i guess you never know till you're actually put in the situation

 

[crispix]

Well, they both survived a scare. Pilots say that any landing you walk away from is a good landing; I suppose the same goes for a dive incident. You survived = good job.

I use an Air II clone (SS1), and very recently started diving with a pony bottle as additional redundancy. I put the pony reg on a necklace. Because of the new configuration, I was practicing OOO drills on my last dive, and found that I'm so used to grabbing my inflator reg, that my instinct was to reach for it first during the drills.

My point is that practice leads to reflex. I like to think that if I sucked in a mouthful of water unexpectedly, I'll calmly grab one of my alternates. I also tell my buddies to feel free to take my primary at any time. "You can ask, or just grab it out of my mouth. I'll figure it out."

 

[Hoomi]

What I found disturbing is that their instructor told him to just go ahead and dive with one regulator inoperative.

If the instructor is going to be making those kind of decisions for the students, then they had also better listen to some of the oldtimers on here and go back to teaching buddy breathing.

Even as a yet-to-be-certified newbie, the set-up of dive buddies with primary and alternate second-stages is so that, in theory, between two tanks and four regulators, there should always be at least two working regulators to use.

Even in class, my wife and I made a point of checking the octos and making sure they both worked before getting in the water.

 

[mbwilliamn]

Ya thats scary....for her and her partner...you'd think after basic training you wouldn't panic like that. but i guess you never know till you're actually put in the situation

There have been some lively discussion on other posts related exactly to this.....if you haven't practiced reg loss until your response is automatic, you aren't ready for your C Card!

 

[drbill]

Hmmm... interesting. My octopus totally lacks a mouthpiece (it got caught in an elevator door a year or two ago) but it can easily be breathed off of (not that I've ever needed to of course)

 

[charlesml3]

I wonder how many new divers erroneously think that if the mouthpiece comes loose the reg is no good as an air source?

What I found disturbing is that their instructor told him to just go ahead and dive with one regulator inoperative.

I get a good chuckle out of this every time it comes up here. A 2nd is OPERATIVE without a mouthpiece! Why in the world do people believe that little piece of plastic is so necessary?

There was even one thread about this exact topic where someone said they did a CESA because "their moutpiece fell off." Uhhh.... OK. I guess an emergency ascent is preferred over :

-Switching to your octo.
-Just breathing off the primary minus the moutpiece.
-Finding your buddy (or any other diver around you).

Talk about some severely unnecessary solutions to a minor problem.

-Charles

 

[Haiko]

Hmmm... interesting. My octopus totally lacks a mouthpiece (it got caught in an elevator door a year or two ago) but it can easily be breathed off of (not that I've ever needed to of course)

Ah...taking diving to a higher level... Did you feel narked by the time you hit te "bottom"?

Sorry, couldn't resist