Green_Manelishi
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made me want to run out and buy a pair !!!
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made me want to run out and buy a pair !!!
large_diver
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Yes, proving that not even techies are immune from using sex to sell gear....makes you you wonder when we'll start seeing scuba babes on the halcyon web site ;-)
Hi Guys. My name is Ben Mazin, and I am the designer of Jetboots.
Interesting comments. Here is my general reply.
1) Jetboots are very expensive. I wish I could make them cheaper - I'd certainly sell a lot more. The problem is that in order for them to be more than a childrens toy they need to be extremely high tech - DC brusless motors and controllers, NiMH batteries, etc. and two of everything! The fact is that if they had the same mark up as a Gavin scooter they'd cost more like $15000 dollars. As it stands, the gavin is $3500 and Jetboots are $5000 (soft pack, $5250 hard pack). They are designed for different types of dives, but for certain dive profiles they are invaluable.
2) Tech list. Yes, Jetboots were mentioned on the aquanaut tech list. The opinion of them was actually rather positive (as you will know if you spend any time on that list they can be rather... critical). Jetboots aren't really designed for 18000' cave penetrations, but they are superb for some dives. For example, external photography of a deep wreck in a current. The hands free use is where they really shine (and fun dives - Jetboots are very, very fun).
3) Ascents. Don't use them for asents. Use your BC.
4) Parapalegic divers. Good call, TexasMike - we have had significant early interest from the handicapped diver community. Not just parapalegics, but people with knee and hip problems that make kicking painful or impossible. Also some interest from the military.
If you guys have any questions about Jetboots feel free to post questions here or email me at ben@jetboots.com. If you are interested in a Jetboots demo, we are located in Southern California and are happy to show them off. Check out the FAQ on the website for details.
Ben Mazin
President, MST
http://www.jetboots.com/
Interesting comments. Here is my general reply.
1) Jetboots are very expensive. I wish I could make them cheaper - I'd certainly sell a lot more. The problem is that in order for them to be more than a childrens toy they need to be extremely high tech - DC brusless motors and controllers, NiMH batteries, etc. and two of everything! The fact is that if they had the same mark up as a Gavin scooter they'd cost more like $15000 dollars. As it stands, the gavin is $3500 and Jetboots are $5000 (soft pack, $5250 hard pack). They are designed for different types of dives, but for certain dive profiles they are invaluable.
2) Tech list. Yes, Jetboots were mentioned on the aquanaut tech list. The opinion of them was actually rather positive (as you will know if you spend any time on that list they can be rather... critical). Jetboots aren't really designed for 18000' cave penetrations, but they are superb for some dives. For example, external photography of a deep wreck in a current. The hands free use is where they really shine (and fun dives - Jetboots are very, very fun).
3) Ascents. Don't use them for asents. Use your BC.
4) Parapalegic divers. Good call, TexasMike - we have had significant early interest from the handicapped diver community. Not just parapalegics, but people with knee and hip problems that make kicking painful or impossible. Also some interest from the military.
If you guys have any questions about Jetboots feel free to post questions here or email me at ben@jetboots.com. If you are interested in a Jetboots demo, we are located in Southern California and are happy to show them off. Check out the FAQ on the website for details.
Ben Mazin
President, MST
http://www.jetboots.com/
Green_Manelishi
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But if I rev those babies up and use them for the ascent
I might not need to climb the ladder. Know what I mean?
G_M
TexasMike
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Ben,
First off, let me welcome you to ScubaBoard and the ScubaSource Network. And thank you for providing more insite into your very interesting product.
We hope that you will contact either King Neptune or Lady Diver (ladydiver@home.com) who are the creators of the board. They are putting together some exciting stuff for divers across the world and are looking to collaborate with innovated manufacturers such as yoursef.
We also look forward to your participation in other discussins about gear and diving.
Again, a warm welcome to you sir!
--TexasMike
First off, let me welcome you to ScubaBoard and the ScubaSource Network. And thank you for providing more insite into your very interesting product.
We hope that you will contact either King Neptune or Lady Diver (ladydiver@home.com) who are the creators of the board. They are putting together some exciting stuff for divers across the world and are looking to collaborate with innovated manufacturers such as yoursef.
We also look forward to your participation in other discussins about gear and diving.
Again, a warm welcome to you sir!
--TexasMike
Ben, you don't use your BC to ascend. For ascents you should be neutrally buoyant and swim up. Buoyant ascents are dangerous.
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Hello Ben,
Thanks for the comments. I still think you need to find a way to bring down the price and you would have a killer product for the scuba industry. They are high-tech but at that price they are toys for the rich.
I think we need a hands on demo of them. COuld you send me a pair or two to demo in our local lakes, I am sure after some of these rich oil barron scuba diving types in Texas get a chance to try them they'll be buying them for all their friends!
It is a great invention though! Keep working on pricing and mass production!
Ben
Your take on the response in tech diver is very different than what I read. The regulars had a great laugh at this idea.
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?50203,subject
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?50222,subject
omar
Your take on the response in tech diver is very different than what I read. The regulars had a great laugh at this idea.
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?50203,subject
http://www.aquanaut.com/bin/mlist/aquanaut/techdiver/display?50222,subject
omar
Wow remind me not to post anything there, they are brutal. I think this is a good invention just needs some refinement which happens with all inventions. Proof positive for that is we are no longer diving in 260 pound brass suits.
Cut the guy a little slack!
Sheesh
Syruss you will have to take it up with them.
In my opinion it has little practical utility and is fraught full of potential failure points. When an alternative is available that will outperform its intended function and will do it in a less expensive manner it kind of makes this item an expensive toy. So in the final cost benefit evaluation it is a failure.
Just because it is a new idea or invention does not mean that it is a viable product or even a good idea.
omar
In my opinion it has little practical utility and is fraught full of potential failure points. When an alternative is available that will outperform its intended function and will do it in a less expensive manner it kind of makes this item an expensive toy. So in the final cost benefit evaluation it is a failure.
Just because it is a new idea or invention does not mean that it is a viable product or even a good idea.
omar
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