lungs hurt after diving..have I hurt myself?

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I have seen posts along this line but to a new diver, as myself, breathing under water at 15 meters is serious stuff. I just took my open water PADI training and I was nervous, but slowly got more comfortable as dives on day 2 occurred. Day 3 we were to go to 18 meter (our deepest dive) and when we got to the safety stop, the instructor indicated that we were to make the ascent making the "sound" while exhaling. I was not clear of the type of ascent we were going to make before we went in the water. We ascended. I however, did run out of exhale on the way up..and not understanding...(and I was out of air) I inhaled again, and made the sound more...and again before we finished ascending took in air two more times. Then when we got to the top, I was told it was all supposed to be on one breath. Literally, I did not have enough air to come up...which concerns me since the "teaching" says how our lungs expand and we will NOT run out of oxygen on the ascent ....BUT I DID!...so what happened? Now since my lungs are hurting I am concerned that I hurt myself. I feel knocked out and also have had terrible gas in my stomach...if anyone can alleviate my concerns I would be most welcome.
 
I have seen posts along this line but to a new diver, as myself, breathing under water at 15 meters is serious stuff. I just took my open water PADI training and I was nervous, but slowly got more comfortable as dives on day 2 occurred. Day 3 we were to go to 18 meter (our deepest dive) and when we got to the safety stop, the instructor indicated that we were to make the ascent making the "sound" while exhaling. I was not clear of the type of ascent we were going to make before we went in the water. We ascended. I however, did run out of exhale on the way up..and not understanding...(and I was out of air) I inhaled again, and made the sound more...and again before we finished ascending took in air two more times. Then when we got to the top, I was told it was all supposed to be on one breath. Literally, I did not have enough air to come up...which concerns me since the "teaching" says how our lungs expand and we will NOT run out of oxygen on the ascent ....BUT I DID!...so what happened? Now since my lungs are hurting I am concerned that I hurt myself. I feel knocked out and also have had terrible gas in my stomach...if anyone can alleviate my concerns I would be most welcome.

The fact that you were breathing, either in or out indicates your airway was open and probably didn't damage your lungs. I can't comment on your pain issue or the stomach gas but I would not worry about barotrauma from what you described. Thanks for posting your question, it never hurts to ask.
 
The point of "making a sound" is to keep your airway open... if you hold your breath during ascent, the air in your lungs will expand and can cause you an injury, as you would know from your OW training. So as long as you didn't hold your breath and/or ascend too fast, it's unlikely your ascent caused you an injury IMO. Possibly you're sore from being tense/nervous during the dive

However I am not a doctor, and I would suggest you consult your instructor or a local dive doctor if possible
 
Call DAN they are there to help and it is free. If you do not already have dive insurance make sure you sign up for it. Cheap insurance since your regular insurance will probably not cover a chamber ride.


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Not sure where you took your course, but - at least in the U.S. - most instructors automatically sign students up for free DAN insurance during the class.
 
too bad you did not understand before performing the ascent.
When you make the sound. you only need to let a small amount of air out as you exhale. Since you ran out of air repeatedly you obviously exhaled large volumes on the way up. The idea is to keep your airway open to allow expanding gas a way out.

You should talk to your doctor about your concerns. It doesn't hurt to be cautious.
 
Where are you, brendaferr? Knowing this would help offer local resources...
 
I think the OP was describing the OW class version of a controlled emergency swimming ascent (CESA): keep reg in mouth, make sound while exhaling on the way to the surface -- all with one breath. For the benefit of the OP, a CESA is what you need to do if you run out of gas while under water. That's why the instructor didn't want you to do any inhalations during the exercise. It's not that inhalations were dangerous at all. It's just that you were practicing what to do when your tank is empty. Performing a successful CESA is a requirement for OW certification.

Breathing in and out during an ascent is perfectly fine. As others have pointed out, this means your airway is open and any expanding gas inside the lungs can escape. This is how all scuba divers normally do ascents. Just relax, keep breathing, and you shouldn't experience any lung-overexpansion problems.

There are many different kinds of "lung" pain. Your description is very vague. In the absence of more info, I interpret "lung pain" to mean chest pain that feels more internal. You really should get checked out by a physician if you're feeling any abnormal pain...especially if it's accompanied by painful/troubled breathing or seems to be getting worse. If you become aware of escalating pain, painful/troubled breathing, neuro symptoms or anything else that seems "serious," go straight to the Emergency Room! Patients complaining of severe/unusual chest pain are usually seen pretty quickly in the ER. If you're not sure what constitutes "serious" symptoms, give DAN (Divers Alert Network) a call. They should be able to make some good recommendations. On the other hand, if the pain seems to be going away on its own and you aren't experiencing any other symptoms, then it's up to you whether you should see a doctor. If you do set up a regular appointment, the doctor should take a good history, perform respiratory, heart, and neuro exams, and might even do some imaging studies. The doctor will be looking for any signs of lung-overexpansion injury.

My gut tells me that if you are sitting at your computer and reading/writing posts on ScubaBoard, you're probably not currently in a state of distress. :D

Being a little fatigued after OW training dives is pretty normal. Gas in the stomach is probably nothing to worry about either. I bet it was due to air that you "gulped" while trying to equalize. This is very common in a lot of OW students who rely on the swallowing technique (or some form thereof) to do ear equalization. You should know that there are several ear equalization techniques to learn about. Try them all and see what works best for you. Click on the link in my sig for excellent info provided by Dr. Kay.

Hope this info helps...
 
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On another note, the fact that your instructor had you do a skill without telling you how to correctly execute the skill or what the purpose of it was draws some serious concerns as to his teaching skills.
 
As has been suggested, call DAN.

But lets not lynch the instructor just yet. None of us were there. OW students are stressed and forget things. What was the experience of other students in the class? Did everyone not know it was a "one breath exhale"?
 
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