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well thank you everyone for your input.. guess i have some good ideas now

Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX

Aqualung Legend

Mares V-16 Proton

Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5

Scubapro mk17/g250

Which Apeks regulator would you recomend...

and which of these above would you recomend.. pretty much this is what everyone seems to be leanding towards.
 
eurotin:
Which Apeks regulator would you recomend...
XTX100

eurotin:
and which of these above would you recomend.. pretty much this is what everyone seems to be leanding towards.

IMHO Best All-a-Round
3) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
4) Aqualung Legend
6) Mares V-16 Proton
5) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
2) Scubapro mk17/g250
1) Apeks XTX100

For the $
1) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
6) Aqualung Legend
3) Mares V-16 Proton
2) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
4) Scubapro mk17/g250
5) Apeks XTX100

Coldwater
3) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
4) Aqualung Legend
5) Mares V-16 Proton
6) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
2) Scubapro mk17/g250
1) Apeks XTX100

Warm Water 2nd Stage Comfort
2) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
5) Aqualung Legend
3) Mares V-16 Proton
1) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
6) Scubapro mk17/g250
4) Apeks XTX100
 
Ditto Serrada. My thoughts exactly.
 
XTX100serrada:
IMHO Best All-a-Round
3) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
4) Aqualung Legend
6) Mares V-16 Proton
5) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
2) Scubapro mk17/g250
1) Apeks XTX100

For the $
1) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
6) Aqualung Legend
3) Mares V-16 Proton
2) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
4) Scubapro mk17/g250
5) Apeks XTX100

Coldwater
3) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
4) Aqualung Legend
5) Mares V-16 Proton
6) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
2) Scubapro mk17/g250
1) Apeks XTX100

Warm Water 2nd Stage Comfort
2) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
5) Aqualung Legend
3) Mares V-16 Proton
1) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
6) Scubapro mk17/g250
4) Apeks XTX100

I really like that Analagy based on those numbers i took the average (added all categorys together and divided by 4.. this is what i got

2.25) Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX
4.75) Aqualung Legend
4.25) Mares V-16 Proton
3.5) Oceanic Delta 4 CDX5
3.5) Scubapro mk17/g250
2.75) Apeks XTX100

so pretty much it looks like its between the Zeagle Flathead VI/ZX and the Apeks for best all around use based on XTX100serrada

how does this sound to others?


HippieBuk:
Atomic B2 or M1 would do you purty good
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those also seem like good regulators but i am leaning more towards a balanced diaphragm design over the pison design
 
cerich:
The At 400 first stage is "shared" with Oceanic, the second stage is not. Oceanic does not have a equivalent regulator.

We see DVT as reducing failures, our testing bears this out.

Reducing failures for water infiltration (cannot argue with that)? With good common sense care of a traditional first stage you can also accomplish that.

What's your test (Just curious)?

Do you open a std. first stage and put it in a bucket of saltwater for a month and let it fail and come to the conclusion that our test bears this out being better?

I take very good care of my regulators and have them service unnecessarily annually. I've got one of your pistons since 1991 that looks like the day it came out of the box.

I like the concept, by now means do I think you should stop making it. Maybe provide an option to not have it. Nor do I really think it has strong possibility of failing. It's basically a one way valve. It's just not for me, yet. I don't like it being: relatively new, I don't like adding mechanical parts and I don’t like little spring operating it. The Aqualung is the same, but works in a reverse spring direction (valve closes the same).
 
serrada:
Reducing failures for water infiltration (cannot argue with that)? With good common sense care of a traditional first stage you can also accomplish that.

What's your test (Just curious)?

Do you open a std. first stage and put it in a bucket of saltwater for a month and let it fail and come to the conclusion that our test bears this out being better?

I take very good care of my regulators and have them service unnecessarily annually. I've got one of your pistons since 1991 that looks like the day it came out of the box.

I like the concept, by now means do I think you should stop making it. Maybe provide an option to not have it. Nor do I really think it has strong possibility of failing. It's basically a one way valve. It's just not for me, yet. I don't like it being: relatively new, I don't like adding mechanical parts and I don’t like little spring operating it. The Aqualung is the same, but works in a reverse spring direction (valve closes the same).
comparisions of regulators placed in heavy service at the same time and results of said service. Internal condition, use before required repairs etc.

There would be nothing to gain from dumping in a bucket.:huh:
 
cerich:
comparisions of regulators placed in heavy service at the same time and results of said service. Internal condition, use before required repairs etc.

There would be nothing to gain from dumping in a bucket.:huh:
Sorry, it's a fish tank, right?
 
serrada:
Sorry, it's a fish tank, right?

That is marketing not testing....:D
 
I just wanted to point out the fact that it’s a good idea to choose a brand you can get locally serviced (bc there might be times you want minor tweaking) and a company that supports their products (i.e. cerich). Those regulators are all top notch and maybe a machine can tell the difference in breathing, but most individuals can’t. Comfort is a very important factor. And as someone mentioned the Atomic Edit: (but not balanced diaphragm first stage as you stated you were looking for org.) is also another good option.
 

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