Logging dives question

[spectrum]

If you are up to recording each then do so. If they are ever needed as prerequisites just have some extras in case they get prorated. Why alter reality for someone else's perception?

Pete

 

[MaxBottomtime]

It's your logbook, so you can log any dive you want to, but I wouldn't even consider logging a dive of less than ten minutes. It will pad your book for future classes, but you will always know you logged dives that really shouldn't count. I know a couple of divers who logged every descent they made during their rescue course. One of them even bragged about making a dozen dives one day. They were less than three minutes each.

 

[scubadada]

20ft for 20 mins seems to be whats generally accepted as a dive... but it's your logbook, so you can do it how you want to. If it were me and I wanted to log that, I'd probably put a day's worth on the same page and I probably wouldn't number it. You say you'd like the credit for at least some of it; is that for prerequisites on future courses? If they're all really short and shallow, you'd probably have a hard time finding an instructor who'd count that towards prereqs. If it's just for yourself, again, log it however you want, it's your logbook.

It's your logbook, so you can log any dive you want to, but I wouldn't even consider logging a dive of less than ten minutes. It will pad your book for future classes, but you will always know you logged dives that really shouldn't count. I know a couple of divers who logged every descent they made during their rescue course. One of them even bragged about making a dozen dives one day. They were less than three minutes each.

I don't know about the 20 ft but the 20 minutes seems about right. I counted my last dive at Blue Herron Bridge, 15 feet for 117 minutes. I recently had an aborted, no vis, dive in Jupiter, 85 feet for 12 minutes (I didn't see a thing and ran into the reef), it didn't make it into my logbook. To each their own.

 

[Steve_C]

There are written requirements for training dives. I think that is where the 20/20 rule comes from. Both those are training dives. You have to do what is right for you. For me the up and down of a day of rescue was all logged as one dive. I have had dives where we were underwater for 30 minutes and surfaced and sat on a a rock partially submerged and chatted for 20 minutes and then dove back for 30 plus minutes. I counted that as one dive. Basically I have to leave the water to start a second dive. Just my thing.

For courses I always log the dives whatever they are as part of the course documentation.

If I spend 30 minutes in 10ft of water on scuba I would count it. I don't count pool dives although some have been for half hour or more and close to 20 ft.

In your case I would do as some of the others say. Count a day as 1. Document the type of diving and time underwater. As long as you are honest the world can call it however they want. Your conscience is clear.

I have had my log book examined twice. Once when I did a couple specialties in the Florida Keys with a person who did not know me and that completed my Master Diver (SDI) which they filed the paperwork on. The second time was when I started my DM (PADI). Instructor verified both number of dives and which certs I had since they were not all done with him.

 

[Mark Michaud SELAUSAR]

If each of these dives completes a task then each is a dive.....period. You are not doing this to pad a log book for future course you are logging them to show your experience with what you are doing. You are "work" diving. When you move on to another recreational certification, let the instructor know you logged your work dives and the instructor can decide to allow them or not. If you are logging the dives I am sure you are logging the times as well. Total time in the water is as significant, if not more significant, than the number of dives. It is about "experience". If I enter the Mississippi River to locate a broken piling, find it in 2 minutes, attach a cable to it in 3 more and exit the water............is that not a dive? Sure it is. I may be in 5 feet or 20 feet or much more. The objective, for said dive, was met. You are not trying to make a bunch of numbers to pad a logbook. Your dives are task oriented and therefore legitimate. Your times will reflect that and you seem to be the kind of person with some integrity, just by asking your question. Log them and move on. I mark my PSD dives as such and my commercial dives as such and my cave dives (each with a running number for just that discipline) as well as a total dive count, but all are in the same log book as my recreational dives.. Are you diving with Ricky Ray? Sounds like NOAA or NAVO stuff. Mark

 

[spectrum]

Adding to my comments in post # 11........

I have logged pool dives for the sake of capturing learings like a weight check, class or gear evaluation. In those non dive settings I did not increment my dive count. You may consider some othr incrementing scheme for these short dives. Each cylinder of air, each hour or 1 for the whole day.

Other than that the standards are hogwash, it's your journal put what you want, just be honest. If a standard ever comes to bear they can read the log and adjust accordingly.

Pete

 

[cbairdjr]

The second was with my 10 year old daughter who just didn't feel up to diving after we had swum out to the platform and dropped to 15'.
With my daughter I learned that any one can call a dive at any time for any reason. Even if we just spent 1/2 hour driving to the lake, 1/2 hour gearing up, 10 minutes swimming to the platform. She was a trooper for having the courage to call it!

I hear you there; a couple of years back I went diving with my son on his first dive after getting certified a year earlier. We drove 2.5 hours to the dive site; geared up; got in the water; went down to about 25 ft for about 10 minutes and he began to surface; I of course followed; upon reaching the surface I asked what was wrong as I thought he had a gear issue; turns out after not diving for a year he had some anxiety about being underwater again and wanted to end the dive; we began to surface swim back to shore and half way there he decided to give it another go; we did a 40' 20 minute dive then exited the water; the plan was to do 3-4 dives that day but once we got out of the water he decided he had enough; we packed up and headed the 2.5 hours back home; he told me he felt bad about "ruining" our dive day; I just laughed and scruffed his hair and told him it wasn't about the diving; it was about a father and son spending time together. I was proud of him for having the courage to call the dive when he was uncomfortable.

 

[DivemasterDennis]

I encounter this issue on training weekends, and my habit is to follow the 20 minute rule as a minimum. I also lump tasks together. So if I have three separate submersions for a total of 40 minutes bottom time during which I was setting up platforms and navigation lines and courses, I will combine that as a single logged dive for purposes of record keeping. I will record each training dive as a separate dive, though, as in open water dive 1, advance open water navigation dive, etc. Each of these will be, in our protocols, 20 minutes or more. I don"t have a rule as to depth, probably because in close to 1000 dives I have never had dive that wasn't at least 20 feet. As far as "official" and unofficial" dives, I review log books more with an eye toward total time under water than toward number of dives.
DivemasterDennis