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caribou

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Has anyone used kodak film along with the recently released (june 2003) photo finish called "kodak sea processing".

I read a lot of good things about it, but never tried it yet. my lab is Fuji based, and told me my UW pictures were crap because of the kodak film, saying it "gives off the yellow" compared to Fuji films. I don't trust this guy so far.

does anyone ever tried different film with the same lab or same film but different lab ?

any recommendations ? any "settings" you know work well ? all my shots shots are 30 feet deep, with flash and 200 speed film, 3 to 4 feet from subject (barracuda, parrot fish, etc..).

For info, I'm using the Sealife Reefmaster CL (35mm automatique with housing).
 
umm... sea processing has been around longer than june 03. i think about 3 years, i may be wrong so please dont flame. do a search on it, i know its been discussed.
 
Yes, 'sea processing' method has been around for a few years. I wouldn't put much stock in what a Fuji guy said about your Kodak film! A good lab will make a few adjustments to correct that color cast, that's basically all sea processing is, regardless of what brand film is used. If they won't, then find another place to get your film developed. When I was shooting film, one of the best places I used was the local Walgreens drug store. The girl doing the processing took an interest in my UW photos and she worked with me the first few times to get the colors right. She even made extra copies for herself to use as reference. After that, I never had to wonder what they would look like.

FWIW, I used Kodak Royal Gold until they quit making it and switched to Fuji Reala, which really was better.
 
maybe you're right, I was confused by the press release (which is not stating the year) and the fact there is more and more advertising for it.

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/consumer/sea/press.shtml

my problem is I can't sit with the person, I barely know what to do except that red and yellow need to be boosted to compensate for the depth.

the guy at the lab did some correction, but how good this is, or how good it could be with this same negativ, I don't know.

Do they apply the same correction to all the pictures ? or do they individually adjust each one ? some pictures were in the reef at 35 feet some others over corals at 15 feet. I guess they shouldn't share the same settings ?
 
Most of the time they put the machine on auto and come back when the photos are printed! I've gotten them printed with have of one pic and half of the next (film)! If you can't sit with them or have them do them while you are there, take a good underwater photo with you to leave for reference. I actually had several that I used. One with lots of blue water, one with patches of colorful reef and several with different colorful fish. I definately had a great person working with me. I'd still be using her for my digitals if she hadn't moved.
 
carribou

first off anybody at a photo processor who slams another film losses my respect and business(have done that more then once), becaues most likely this guy does nothing but feed the film into the machine with it set to auto correct and probably doenst know how to manuelly adjust the images(indivdually) to get the balance right(this is similar to what kodak does).

first off once the film has been devolped you cant run the images through kodak sea processing, you can try from negatives but i havent done that yet, as kodak see processing is specially hand done from start to finish (do a search on sea processing and you should find a older post of mine about the processing and how its done)

as for films i have used, i mainly i use is slide for underwater and above(even though its been over a year since i shot a roll of slide underwater) and i use Fuji Velva 100, Kodack Ektachrome 100, S, or VS or Elite Chrome (or extra color all iso 100) now for print films i use is fuji NPH (iso400) or NPS (iso160) or kodak . yes(ISO 100 ) it is a slow film but with a strobe it doesnt matter, without the strobe i would go with a 400 speed film kodak EPN or supra 400 or fuji NPH .

but one warning about slide is that it has less exposure latitude then print film which means colors will wash/be blown out quicker so you have to slightly underexpose or hit the exposure dead on

you might notice these films i mentioned are all considered pro films and not consumer films,but this is what i prefer because the color is the same from roll to roll and batch to batch, as i shoot alot of film for normal/personal use and for school since im a photography major,. I dont hold anything against normal (whats considered consumer) films as i use them to but with professional films the color will be the same from batch to batch and are shipped ready to go to be exposed or need to be stored in a refrigerator till being used, where with consumer films they are from the same base set up but are shipped atlittle green because most of the time they will sit on the shelf for a couple of months in a store and will be ready or optimized 3-12 months after production, the result of this is a slight color shift in the image or a little less saturation, but this is where the normal labs corrections come into play that most people dont even notice as most people arent aware of how film is processed anyways. For me when i get film processed i tell them no corrections at all because i wnat to see where i messed up, and also a base point for when i photoshop it.

the regular(consumer) films i like are kodak supra, fuji reala, and superia in most speeds from 100-800

nowif you want to have the prints redone have the processor turn down the cyan(blue) levels and increase the Magenta(Red), and to only uses the yellow level as a last resort till it balances out. but they cant apply the same settings for a photo that was taken at 15 feet then one taken at 80, its a image by image basis.

for what its worth the money i spend on kodak sea processing is a whole lot better then having to get my prints redone because of automatic corrections or sitting there to make sure they do it correctly (ie no walmart, target, sams or costco)

FWIW

Tooth
 
I have used Kodak Sea Processing for several years and have been very pleased with it. I usually have my film developed in Grand Cayman and then print the photos at home. When I compared some that were printed in Cayman with those that were printed by the Kodak Sea Processing the comparison was striking. I've switched to digital but my wife still takes film with a Nikonos V and she has recently switched to Fuji Velvia 100 slide film. She also shoots Velvia 50. We buy the film at Penn Camera in and around Washington DC.
TedJ
 
I have used Kodak Sea Processing for several years and have been very pleased with it. I usually have my film developed in Grand Cayman and then print the photos at home. When I compared some that were printed in Cayman with those that were printed by the Kodak Sea Processing the comparison was striking. I've switched to digital but my wife still takes film with a Nikonos V and she has recently switched to Fuji Velvia 100 slide film. She also shoots Velvia 50. We buy the film at Penn Camera in and around Washington DC.
TedJ
I came upon this old thread while searching Kodak Sea Processing. With a few friends, I created it. It started around 1999. How are you capturing and improving your underwater photos today?
 

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