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If I had the gas, I would.But in zero vis, nobody is going to go back into the cave to look for a teammate.
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If I had the gas, I would.But in zero vis, nobody is going to go back into the cave to look for a teammate.
That’s a nice sentiment, but in true zero vis, you have no way of determining your gas reserves. And how are you going to ‘look’ for a teammate? You’re just putting yourself in greater danger.If I had the gas, I would.
I have been in "true zero" vis, more than once, and could still see my spg. Just light it and jam it up against your mask.That’s a nice sentiment, but in true zero vis, you have no way of determining your gas reserves.
these decision are made in context of gas reserves and psychological stress- we can write all the protocols ad infinitum but in reality everyone has a point along the spectrum that they are on the verge of panic and just have to get outI’m trying to imagine a scenario in which it would make sense to travel into a cave, away from the exit, in zero vis, to search for a teammate who has not followed the protocols in zero vis. One that pops into my mind is, maybe the teammate is entangled on the line and could not advance to establish touch contact. But this diver should be very close by unless there was team separation prior to the zero vis, in which case there was already a failure of teamwork prior to the zero vis situation. Heading back into a cave, blind, is just making a bad situation worse. But it is an interesting conversation.
Nobody else teaches or uses presence markers consistently except UTJ. This actually presents a problem in zero vis since you can spend quite a bit of time trying to figure out which of multiple presence markers is yours to remove it - and not knock anyone else's off. When you really just need to keep moving towards the exit.I believe the training is take your own cookie but leave the jump obviously still in. That’s why tying into your own REM (one of the pictures above) is interesting.
UTJ does teach the use of individual markers, but the protocol is to leave everything in the case of an emergency (such as zero viz).Nobody else teaches or uses presence markers consistently except UTJ. This actually presents a problem in zero vis since you can spend quite a bit of time trying to figure out which of multiple presence markers is yours to remove it - and not knock anyone else's off. When you really just need to keep moving towards the exit.
Mingling directional markers and presence markers is also generally bad news. If you do use presence markers keep them distinct from directional markers.
GUE doesn't use presence markers and leaves every marker, jump and line in the cave when poo hits the fan. Cause they are all directional and have no presence meaning and anyone in the cave needs all the directional help available.