Is Dacor junk??

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KenH:
Thanks for all the replies. My intent was to find out if there is a "feel" to a certain company. I will be a recreational diver, doing most of my dives in the tropics on vacation. I don't know wether to buy the inexpensive stuff versus renting. I don't know if I can justify spending tons of money while I won't be diving a great deal. Dacor seems to be inexpensive compared to other brands, however, I don't know if it is "inexpensive" or "cheap".

KenH
ken I have a full dacor setup.bc and regs. I have logged over 60 dives on them in just one year and i now have my masters. The LDS trained me is a scubapro man all the way he always makes fun of my equipment but he has seen that it takes a beating and keeps on diving because i have did all my classes through his dive shop and really like him but his equipment was just more than I could afford.I have never had any problem with any of the gear but I really take care of it and inspect it after and before each dive.I cant say anything bad about dacor because I have never had any thing but great service from it. I hope this helps , I can tell you that if your going to do alot of diving you should buy your own gear instead of renting that way you will always know what you have and not something that someone tells you is ok.
 
My wife and I both purchased Dacor BC's about three years ago. I purchased the Nautica and she the Extemelle (not sure about model name).

Her power inflator began leaking within the first six months. We simply replaced the power inflator, and it's worked fine ever since.

A while back my power inflator went out as well. It gradually began inflating my BC slower and slower. I considered getting a whole new BC, but opted to simply replace the power inflater. It works fine, and after about 120 dives it seems to be in good working condition.

I wasn't impressed with the power inflators going bad, but everything else on the BC's seem to be working great.

I'd like to hear about the experience others have had with the Dactor Nautica BC's.
 
KenH:
I am a newbie doing extensive research for equipment at various websites. I have read a great deal of comments here and other places, along with looking at prices of equipment at online dealers. I can't put my finger on one particular review, but is Dacor consider the Yugo of equipment, specifically BC's? Is this one brand that I should stay away from?

KenH

As with everything, there are those who have first-hand experience. There are those that have second-hand experience. And there are those that have no experience at all.

All of us tend to prefer a particular brand or brands and find one better than another for personal reasons. Some people tend to just follow the heard in stating something is no good or something is great without trying it out (not pointing any fingers, so don't flame me).

All companies have released a product or three that probably shouldn't have been released. Doesn't mean everything "sucks" as a single item they experienced wasn't very good.

I've been diving with the same Dacor BC and Reg since 1989 and its been in near freezing alpine lakes in Europe and the warm waters of the Carribean as well as in the murky, muddy lakes of Texas. They have served me well and (when that day comes) when they wear out, I'll miss them.

Gear is a very personal choice. Take everything you hear from people with a grain of salt as it WILL be a bit biased based upon their personal experience or hearsay. If you are interested in an item, get the general view and see if you can rent one and try it out before you buy. Only then will you see if it is comfortable and suits you.

The only problem I've had with Dacor over the years (after all, they and the old Aqua Lung were the only two US Dive companies that would support military personnel and their familites stationed overseas in the 80s and early 90s by the way) is that they are not the fasted to respond and, after 15 years, they couldn't replace the non-user-replaceable batteries in my Micro Brain Pro Plus dive computer (but I found an ex-engineer that could). They still service all my stuff and I have no complaints.
 
EricJ:
My wife and I both purchased Dacor BC's about three years ago. I purchased the Nautica and she the Extemelle (not sure about model name).

Her power inflator began leaking within the first six months. We simply replaced the power inflator, and it's worked fine ever since.

A while back my power inflator went out as well. It gradually began inflating my BC slower and slower. I considered getting a whole new BC, but opted to simply replace the power inflater. It works fine, and after about 120 dives it seems to be in good working condition.

I wasn't impressed with the power inflators going bad, but everything else on the BC's seem to be working great.

I'd like to hear about the experience others have had with the Dactor Nautica BC's.

I've owned a Nautica BC since about 1999 and it's been my only BC ever since. It was ex-class/rental, although my LDS owner's wife tells me that she used it as her personal BC. Anyway, it was already well used and faded brown by the time I got it, and is much more so now, so factor that into my story. Overall I liked it, it fits great and does what I presume is a decent job of buoyancy compensatin', I've taken it to 100' 45 degree water in Tobermory and into tropical waters around Bimini and it does fine; the only problem I have is that the dang cummerbund, even adjusted as far out as I know how, still insists on coming apart at the most inopportune times, like striding off a boat (grr). Also, I think the power inflator is going out on me as well. Anyway, overall I have to say my Nautica has been decent and usable. I am just ready to replace it because it's getting worn out and just plain ugly to boot.

Dacor seems to be better these days at things like BCs (the monstrous-looking HUB notwithstanding) than their regs, which I resolutely intend to move away from. My impression, aside from any technical details, is that Dacor regs are complicated and somewhat "gimmicky" and marketing driven, but not particularly stellar performers. The parts and service situation vis a vis the Mares takeover is the last three or so nails in the coffin afaic. My old Enduro (my first reg) is an orphan now; my shop won't even look at it anymore, Dacor doesn't support it or supply parts for it anymore. My now-main reg is a Viper Tec, which has a nasty habit of freeflowing for no reason, is uncomfortable, hard to purge when I want it to, slightly wet, and generally not exactly what I assume is a good breather. I want to replace that one by next summer, no doubt about it. Any reg by Dacor that isn't brand new I'd stay away from, the ones from the last 5 or 10 years just seem to be stylish schlock, or if they are the older, genuinely solid regs from Dacor's glory days then you can't get them serviced anyway so they're pretty much worthless. I can't speak for the newer Dacor-in-name-only regs, but as good as Mares gear is supposed to be I don't trust them to stand behind their product the way that, say, Scubapro or Aqualung will.

I wonder if there's any possibility of someone going into business to make what in automobiles would be called aftermarket or reproduction parts for officially orphaned Dacor regs (or other obsolete regs for that matter...wouldn't it be great to thoroughly rebuild that old White Stag or Healthways moldering away in your garage?). Anyway, since Mares has pretty much gave up its interest in old Dacor gear, the least they could do is license the rights to the spare parts and sell the tooling to some enterprising and conscientious person. Hell, people still make replacement parts for Studebakers, fer chrissakes.

I shall now shut up and go get myself some lunch.

cheers,

Billy S.
 
From the point of view of servicing them. I won't touch Dacor. The ones I have been exposed to are nothing put a pain in the *** to work on. I'm not sure on the latest models but seeing the models from 5 years ago I run when some mentions that word.
 
Her power inflator began leaking within the first six months. We simply replaced the power inflator, and it's worked fine ever since.

Dacor did replace the power inflater that began leaking; however, they sent the repair shop the same cheap power inflator that didn't last six months. I chose not to use it and purchased an after-market power inflator.
 
Moogyboy:
the only problem I have is that the dang cummerbund, even adjusted as far out as I know how, still insists on coming apart at the most inopportune times, like striding off a boat (grr). Also, I think the power inflator is going out on me as well. Anyway, overall I have to say my Nautica has been decent and usable. I am just ready to replace it because it's getting worn out and just plain ugly to boot.
I just got rid of my Dacor Nautica (after 2 power inflators) for the same reasons - getting worn out and ugly, and the cumberbund was always opening when jumping off a boat. I think that's just the velcro being worn out - I've seen rentals "fixed" by sewing a few strips of new velcro over the old stuff. If you have a sewing machine available you could try that until you get a new one.
 
I'm going to have to disagree regarding getting Dacor Regs serviced.

Just picked my 1989 IcePro and Octo up from service a few weeks ago. No problem with parts, no problems whatsoever.

From my dive life's experiences, alot of the service issues come down with your LDS and how they conduct their relationships with the various manufacturers. If one LDS "can't service" an item, you can check with another. It could be that "can't" really means "won't" and that is a local decision.
 
Damselfish:
I just got rid of my Dacor Nautica (after 2 power inflators) for the same reasons - getting worn out and ugly, and the cumberbund was always opening when jumping off a boat. I think that's just the velcro being worn out - I've seen rentals "fixed" by sewing a few strips of new velcro over the old stuff. If you have a sewing machine available you could try that until you get a new one.

Dacor seems to have some issues with quality of materials and design. I get the sense that their gear puts stylishness and whizbang gimmickry over solid design and craftsmanship. Above everything else scuba gear should be simple and functional to a fault--sleek design doesn't count for much when your life is at stake. I rolled my eyes when I saw and heard about the HUB: a snazzy looking solution in search of a problem, ie classic late '90s Dacor. But that's just my impression, it may be the reincarnation of the wheel for all I know.

cheers

Billy S.
 

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