Is 100 dives enough for an instructor?

[DivingGal]

Epinephelus once bubbled...
Hi guys,
I'm sensing "English as a second language" problems here. I do not sense any sarcasm or insincerity; please give each other plenty of leeway in interpreting what's said.
Your friend,
E. itajara

I do believe you are right.

We all should remember this is an board with member from around the world, and their primary language (or even their secondary one) is not English.

 

[TCDiver1]

I think some of you may be missing a salient point here. The number of dives thing is a prerequisite in starting instructor training. To start training one must be trained through the divemaster/ divecon cert. and have the minimum number of dives among other requirements. Then, in terms of Padi, go through an IDC and an IE.

It's not as simple or quick as some make it sound.

 

[GTADiver]

gedunk once bubbled...
I think some of you may be missing a salient point here. The number of dives thing is a prerequisite in starting instructor training. To start training one must be trained through the divemaster/ divecon cert. and have the minimum number of dives among other requirements. Then, in terms of Padi, go through an IDC and an IE.

It's not as simple or quick as some make it sound.

Generalizing is happening as I think most competent instructors have heard horror stories of new instructors that simply melted their credit card at the LDS to get an instructor card.

 

[Amanda]

I have no time to send a PM but sorry to have misunderstood - it is an "English as a second-language" misunderstanding...

Sorry if I got you pissed off, wasn't my point. In french, wishing good luck to someone can be very ambivalent.

Cheers

 

[neil]

Epinephelus once bubbled...
The number of dives a diver has is perhaps the poorest measure of instructional competency there is. I have seen divers who throw themselves body and soul into diving from their first class, who are natural teachers and ready to be competent as instructors after 100 dives. I have seen divers with (I'm thinking of a specific individual here) with over 3000 dives who couldn't teach a fish to swim.
The ability to teach effectively is far too dependent on other factors than the mere number of times someone's jumped in the water to say "yeah" or "nay" based solely on that.
Bottom line - as an absolute minimum cutoff I think 100 dives is just about right, for the cream of the crop.
E. itajara

That pretty much echoes my opinion. I became an instructor with 104 dives and, being "cream of the crop", I was pretty damn good from the start.
And BTW, since when is 100 times doing something not a lot? New doctors do stuff to people every day that they only saw demonstrated only once or twice. Then they TEACH it! Be afraid, be very afraid.
Neil

 

[GTADiver]

Ya I see where you guys are going here.....

Its like the Catholic Priest giving marriage advice.

 

[O-ring]

GTADiver once bubbled...
Ya I see where you guys are going here.....

Its like the Catholic Priest giving marriage advice.

Should we add you to the "Favourite Troll" thread?

 

[GTADiver]

maybe not tomorrow but today would be ok

 

[ElectricZombie]

100 dives IS enough for a person to become an Instructor under certain circumstances. It truely depends on the person, and I think it is rare. I've only see a few people capable of this.

If the individual is a highly motivated perfectionist who practices hard and studies, it is very well possible that 100 dives will be adequate.

I've seen both ends of the spectrum, Instructors with anywhere from 100 to 3000+ dives. Honestly, the best one's I've seen don't really have a lot of dives...100 - 200 max usually. My only explanation for this is that these are the same individuals who practice all their skills on a weekly basis and challenge themselves to do better. I've seen Instructors with 3000+ dives that I would NEVER even dive with. They never challenge themselves and are incompetent idiots. I would have no problem with certain Instructors with 100 or so dives teaching someone I cared about.

I stopped asking people how many dives they had a long time ago. The ones with the big numbers are usually the ones that are the most trouble.

 

[IndyScott]

would think yes. Dose he or she follow Standards(Rules)?
I think that can be more important than the100 dive rule.

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