Indonesia closed for foreigners 01 - 14 January 2021

[Indah]

ALL is too strong a word.
Three vaccines are approved in HK: AstraZ, BioNTec and Sinovac.
So far 7 has died and all after injection with Sinovac.

Hong Kong expands coronavirus vaccines to 5.5 million people

I meant all countries which are using or want planned to use AstraZeneca. 7 died out of how many people being vaccinated? How many would usually die in the same age and risks group in that period?

 

[Centrals]

Something closer to home!
Indonesian nurse dies 9 days after receiving China's Sinovac vaccine | Taiwan News | 2021/02/25
In East Java.

For some unknown reasons the mortality rate after Sinovac injection is a lot higher in HK than other places.

 

[Indah]

Something closer to home!
Indonesian nurse dies 9 days after receiving China's Sinovac vaccine | Taiwan News | 2021/02/25
In East Java.

And how many nurses died after eating white rice? Drinking tea? Having an argument? What is your point?

 

[Centrals]

And how many nurses died after eating white rice? Drinking tea? Having an argument? What is your point?

No one has ever died from eating white rice or drinking tea directly unless it is laced with poison.
Nothing!
You brought up the subject on vaccine safety not I.

 

[Indah]

No one has ever died from eating white rice or drinking tea directly unless it is laced with poison.
Nothing!
You brought up the subject on vaccine safety not I.

People die. That is what we are supposed to do some day. And maybe the vaccines were not related at all to the death. Such as white rice and tea are usually not related. Just coincedence.

 

[Centrals]

AstraZeneca vaccine: EU regulator 'firmly convinced' benefits outweigh risks

Jonathan Van-Tam takes swipe at AstraZeneca 'blood clot' fears

No point to keep the vaccine in the fridge!

Even paracetamol has side effect!

Paracetamol Overdose | Patient

 

[tursiops]

So far 7 has died and all after injection with Sinovac

That is NOT what your link says.

 

[Centrals]

That is NOT what your link says.

Check the latest figure yourself!

 

[Tippytoes12]

Check the latest figure yourself!

Eleven million people in the UK got this vaccine in the last 3 months. Apart from healthcare workers, these patients were in the 50 plus age group so are at higher risk of blood clots than the general population. The numbers in the vaccinated group were actually lower than the not inconsiderable number of clots that would be expected in 11 million unvaccinated people. Context is also incredibly important. 2.5 million people in one year died after testing positive for COVID-19. It is also incredibly effective, 90 per cent plus people given the vaccine did not get COVID-19, and was given to 22,000 people in one trial alone. This is truly a non brainer !

 

[Mod63]

Just one point about AZ and clots. There is a lot od confusion and missunderstanding, and some people, including scientist have commented without the complete facts.
Germany's PEI has found that while the rate of thrombosis as a whole is not concerning. However, there is a very special and rare type called Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis in combination with thrombocytopenia. Prevalence of this is 1:1 million; as of 18.3. there are 7 reported cases with 3 deaths which occured 4 to 16 days after vaccination with AZ. Only 1.5 million doses where administered at that point, so we are at 4-5 : 1 million, which is significant higher than expected. In addition, all cases occured in women between 20 and 50. PEI is not known for being "alarmist"; as a matter of fact last week when other countries started pulling AZ they issued a statement of "no concern" but they did convey an emergency specialist panel on Monday morning and issued their statement later that day. To the best of my knowledge, the cases in Austria, Norway and Denmark are of the same typ.
Current working hypothesis is that the cases are in fact caused by AZ but that the risk is not evenly distributed; one possible (and some of us think highly probable) outcome of todays EMA meeting is that AZ will temporarily be blocked for women of child bearing age. We will see.