Iberostar vrs. Occidental Grand

[redacted]

If the bourgeois are shipped to some other countries, they would be mobbed by the proles and torn apart.

Maybe you could just force them to spend the night outside of Manhattan.

 

[cvchief]

Hegel is arguing that the reality is merely an a priori adjunct of non-naturalistic ethics, Kant via the categorical imperative is holding that ontologically it exists only in the imagination, and Marx is claiming it was offside.

 

[Mike]

The theory of the fat cats creating jobs is such an old one and that does not pan out in real life, .

I'd like to see the success of one of your Prols, walking next door to his Prols neighbor and asking if he was hiring.

 

[DazedAndConfuzed]

I'd like to see the success of one of your Prols, walking next door to his Prols neighbor and asking if he was hiring.

The repeated spewing of Ayn Rand ideologies, which as the last 40 years has shown, did not pan out at all (or maybe that was the whole plan). Before there were wage s1aves being just a cog in the wheel, society, trades existed. Just without the pimp taking a cut from everybody's labor.

 

[Mike]

I'd still like to see the success of one of you Prols walking next door to his Prols neighbor and asking if he was hiring.

I have to operate in the real world, the logical world that defies the fantasies that you might want to profess about. Your theory is that the wealthy don't create job creation opportunities in this country. Your logic would dictate that the statistically larger average income population create jobs. Again, have one of your average Prols walk next door and ask his neighbor who is a fellow average Prol if he is hiring. The answer is going to be what the hell are you asking me for a job for, I don't own a business and employ anyone.

The whiners refuse to realize that success is earned by winning and not dolled out by by just showing up. In a triathalon there is only one 1st place finisher, everyone who finishes behind the winner does not win the race. The whiners aren't even in the race, they are the ones watching it, swilling beer, stuffing their faces with hotdogs and believing they could compete in the event instead of watch it if they wanted to, they just don't want to, when reality is they couldn't even qualify to be in the race.

1000 people enter a foot race. One will cross the finish line first, one will cross the finish line last and the rest will finish inbetween, the only thing separating how they finish is their preparation prior to the event.

Sounds like if you ran the event the rules would be that everybody starts the race at the same time, anybody who gets to the finish line first must wait for everyone else to show up then we all join hands and walk across the finish line at the same time, then everybody is given an even split of the prize money. Within a short time the best runners would lose their incentive to train and stay in peak performance since there is no incentive to be first anymore. And that's exactly what you want, a evening out of everyone to a unifying average malaise of mediocrity with no rewards no incentives to strive to excel, to perform.

 

[old gaffer]

If your whiners did not show up to drink the beer and eat the hotdogs and sit and wish they were as wonderful as those in the race the race would be canceled for lack of support.

Gaffer

 

[firstdive2005]

I'd still like to see the success of one of you Prols walking next door to his Prols neighbor and asking if he was hiring.

I have to operate in the real world, the logical world that defies the fantasies that you might want to profess about. Your theory is that the wealthy don't create job creation opportunities in this country. Your logic would dictate that the statistically larger average income population create jobs. Again, have one of your average Prols walk next door and ask his neighbor who is a fellow average Prol if he is hiring. The answer is going to be what the hell are you asking me for a job for, I don't own a business and employ anyone.

The whiners refuse to realize that success is earned by winning and not dolled out by by just showing up. In a triathalon there is only one 1st place finisher, everyone who finishes behind the winner does not win the race. The whiners aren't even in the race, they are the ones watching it, swilling beer, stuffing their faces with hotdogs and believing they could compete in the event instead of watch it if they wanted to, they just don't want to, when reality is they couldn't even qualify to be in the race.

1000 people enter a foot race. One will cross the finish line first, one will cross the finish line last and the rest will finish inbetween, the only thing separating how they finish is their preparation prior to the event.

Sounds like if you ran the event the rules would be that everybody starts the race at the same time, anybody who gets to the finish line first must wait for everyone else to show up then we all join hands and walk across the finish line at the same time, then everybody is given an even split of the prize money. Within a short time the best runners would lose their incentive to train and stay in peak performance since there is no incentive to be first anymore. And that's exactly what you want, a evening out of everyone to a unifying average malaise of mediocrity with no rewards no incentives to strive to excel, to perform.

Well said.
Most people that complain about rate of earning are not capable or wont start their own business. Life will always have leaders and servers. I am a leader that also serves. I think that keeps me healthy in the way I deal with my employees.
The target for me in my business is the gratitude of my clients, the money follows. My water mark is high. I dont advertize and never have an issue finding people to work with me. It's difficult to find the ones that can be left alone and trusted to do the work correctly or properly. I run the race to win, yet I try to get my workers to race with me.

 

[Dhboner]

Thanks for the massive thread hijack...i wanted a little hotel advice not a socio-economic debate.

 

[DazedAndConfuzed]

I'd still like to see the success of one of you Prols walking next door to his Prols neighbor and asking if he was hiring.

I have to operate in the real world, the logical world that defies the fantasies that you might want to profess about. Your theory is that the wealthy don't create job creation opportunities in this country. Your logic would dictate that the statistically larger average income population create jobs. Again, have one of your average Prols walk next door and ask his neighbor who is a fellow average Prol if he is hiring. The answer is going to be what the hell are you asking me for a job for, I don't own a business and employ anyone.

This is ridiculous. You assume fat cats are the only ones providing jobs. Have you not noticed, the multi-nationals depleted this country of almost all mfg jobs in search of profit for their pocket, at the cost of all the proles. Your assumption is that everybody except one will be losers (which is how 40 years of Rand theory placed into practice has taken us to).

And if one prole goes to their neighbor, they don't have to say you got a job? They could easily say, you got any goods or work you want to trade for my goods or work? The other prole could just as easily say, I hire this fat cat shop to do my landscaping, if you can do it, more power to you. Then they could both benefit because they don't have to hire the fat cat, who hire wage s1aves and pocket most of the money, and because the payment is direct and what the other prole thinks is fair, then the cost is lower.

As I said, I work in W411 St for a long time. I know how the game works.

Thanks for the massive thread hijack...i wanted a little hotel advice not a socio-economic debate.

Bottom line, Occidental has a fat cat only section. No need to patronize it.

 

[redacted]

Bottom line, Occidental has a fat cat only section. No need to patronize it.

I don't think you get it. To almost all the folks working at the OG you and all the rest of the guests staying there are "fat cats". I guess you are just one of those poor proletariat fat cats.