I think I have been "had" just a bit

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Oh feel free to come up with some witty BS. I've gone beyond the need to justify right to the wrong. Do what you want say what you want but feel free to believe in the fact that most folks don't share the same conclusion as you.

Love ya man. Stay strong. :)

How do you define most? Do you have some numbers? And what is my conclusion?
PS. I don't think you love me, you never sent any flowers :(
 
How do you define most? Do you have some numbers? And what is my conclusion?
PS. I don't think you love me, you never sent any flowers :(

Why do I have to do all the foot work? Fine, have some flowers...

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On the "profit" motivation at dive shops re 6351T6 cylinders............

Multiple people in multiple threads have advanced the notion that dive shops refuse to service and fill they cylinder primarily because of the profit in selling the customer a new cylinder. This actually does not work.

The lowest wholesale cost I can find for an aluminum 80 cylinder, with valve, is $124.00. The shipping cost to get the cylinder to my shop is about $11.40 on average. This give a total cost of goods sold of $135.40. These cylinders typically sell for an aggregate average of $161.14 (this is the average in my database for sales over the last year). We typically give the first air fill and the visual inspection at no charge for a new cylinder. This is a gross profit after cost of goods of $25.74.

If we simply hydro, VIP, and fill the old 6351T6 cylinders, we would realize a revenue of $46 from those services. Our "cost" for those services to pay the outside contractor for the hydro is $18, plus undefined labor and gas to trip them over to the hydro station. This leaves a gross profit after cost of goods of $28.00.

So, we would ACTUALLY make more money on simply filling and servicing the 6351T6 cylinders than we would for selling a brand new AL80. Go figure.

Phil Ellis
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I didn't catch this earlier. That's a GREAT shipping price.

Typically we take orders until we reach 200 pounds before ordering tanks. Individually we are charged about $29 for one tank delivered. We hydro internally and don't charge for the VIP and fill so we realize a greater gain possibly. I'm not sure it's a wash but I know I work for free so mileage certainly varies.
 
I wonder how cheap it would be to create some sort of barrier device for the fill operator....because like I said it comes down to money. It seems to be that the logic behind not filling these tanks is for the safety of the employee filling it. If that really is the case, then why wouldn't an owner invest in such a barrier for even brand new tanks...because even a brand new tank could burst.
 
I wonder how cheap it would be to create some sort of barrier device for the fill operator....because like I said it comes down to money. It seems to be that the logic behind not filling these tanks is for the safety of the employee filling it. If that really is the case, then why wouldn't an owner invest in such a barrier for even brand new tanks...because even a brand new tank could burst.


Very true. A brand new tank could burst. But it's far less likely.

How much more are you willing to pay for an air fill to circumvent the dangers of your personal tank selection and enhance the safety of the FSO?

I dig the idea personally and we have a steel cage to fill in but the FSO is still required to connect and disconnect tanks.


How much more money are you willing to invest towards more safety? Because in all honesty the older tank owner is the only one with something to gain.
 
Dang...der Fuhrer has been making his rounds through scubaboard! lol!

I am glad to see you boys are finally being nice to each other! ;)

Carolyn:shark2:
 
PS... I like how this thread has taken on a life of its own well beyond what I originally posted

Welcome to Scubaboard. You normally have a short window to get your question answered, then things head into their own little world.
 

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