HP Hose Failure

[iain/hsm]

Like most things in Scuba, the differences are more in the mind and perception.

Like most things in recreational sports diving scuba equipment la la land the differences are more
in the use of made for profit components sourced from the cheapest recreational rink dink provider of toilet
and garden hose using compounds out of some backstreet chemical vendors back yard to some recreational sports DEMA standard and the inadequate standard of EN250 at the cheapest possible price for the importer distributor and retail dive store to maximise profit out of you the cash cow end user.

Rather than accept an international recognised standard for high pressure flexible hose pressure and gas of SAE 100R7 and R8 with the additional Non conductive option of core material for elevated oxygen concentrations and the advantage discussed earlier of a pricked outer cover or sheath.

Added to which end fitting that are professionally swaged by method of swaging or pallet swaged with a recognised with a certified bend radius performance and a pull test under pressure over a radius template.

The difference is in capability knowledge calibration certification together with quality assurance.

A properly manufactured frit at the regulator end also helps reduce and control the pressure shock loads and adiabatic shock pressure and heat loadings on the hose by contrast to when you fit the thing into the gauge to protect the internal ancient but cheap bourdon tube movement and the poor solder connections. Made for profit junk. Just saying.

For consideration Mind and perception is for the misguided the foolish and the idiot.

Now that's fixed it for you.

 

[Centrals]

Why would anyone carry a spare equipment not to his/her own liking? It just does not make any sense at all.

 

[BoltSnap]

Like most things in recreational sports diving scuba equipment la la land the differences are more
in the use of made for profit components sourced from the cheapest recreational rink dink provider of toilet
and garden hose using compounds out of some backstreet chemical vendors back yard to some recreational sports DEMA standard and the inadequate standard of EN250 at the cheapest possible price for the importer distributor and retail dive store to maximise profit out of you the cash cow end user.

Rather than accept an international recognised standard for high pressure flexible hose pressure and gas of SAE 100R7 and R8 with the additional Non conductive option of core material for elevated oxygen concentrations and the advantage discussed earlier of a pricked outer cover or sheath.

Added to which end fitting that are professionally swaged by method of swaging or pallet swaged with a recognised with a certified bend radius performance and a pull test under pressure over a radius template.

The difference is in capability knowledge calibration certification together with quality assurance.

A properly manufactured frit at the regulator end also helps reduce and control the pressure shock loads and adiabatic shock pressure and heat loadings on the hose by contrast to when you fit the thing into the gauge to protect the internal ancient but cheap bourdon tube movement and the poor solder connections. Made for profit junk. Just saying.

For consideration Mind and perception is for the misguided the foolish and the idiot.

Now that's fixed it for you.

Aside from your usual incomprehensible ravings, what problem are you talking about, and what is your opinion of the solution?

 

[Divin'Papaw]

Glad I no longer use HP hoses.

 

[happy-diver]

Aside from your usual incomprehensible ravings, what problem are you talking about, and what is your opinion of the solution?

Just come into a roll of soft pliable vinyl thought I might do a run
of square cut mens undies yeah, with with the studs on the inside

Anyone interested Just scribble your measurements in the thread

I'll work out a price once I've put a pair together, they'll be a high pitched cheep

 

[34109411]

Like most things in recreational sports diving scuba equipment la la land the differences are more
in the use of made for profit components sourced from the cheapest recreational rink dink provider of toilet
and garden hose using compounds out of some backstreet chemical vendors back yard to some recreational sports DEMA standard and the inadequate standard of EN250 at the cheapest possible price for the importer distributor and retail dive store to maximise profit out of you the cash cow end user.

Rather than accept an international recognised standard for high pressure flexible hose pressure and gas of SAE 100R7 and R8 with the additional Non conductive option of core material for elevated oxygen concentrations and the advantage discussed earlier of a pricked outer cover or sheath.

Added to which end fitting that are professionally swaged by method of swaging or pallet swaged with a recognised with a certified bend radius performance and a pull test under pressure over a radius template.

The difference is in capability knowledge calibration certification together with quality assurance.

A properly manufactured frit at the regulator end also helps reduce and control the pressure shock loads and adiabatic shock pressure and heat loadings on the hose by contrast to when you fit the thing into the gauge to protect the internal ancient but cheap bourdon tube movement and the poor solder connections. Made for profit junk. Just saying.

For consideration Mind and perception is for the misguided the foolish and the idiot.

Now that's fixed it for you.

wow

 

[iain/hsm]

wow

What your PADI and SDI instructors et al don't tell you is that your HP hose made by a company called Mirflex is a company better known for toilet hose and washing machine hose as stated I earlier and an uncomfortable reminder to some of facts that they don't like young divers knowing about.

Inlet hose for household electrical appliances, flexible and no leak

Our range of inlet hose for household appliances is made up of thermoplastic materials.

www.miflex.com

Further the Mirflex recall of breathing interstage hose so popular with the recreational masses which incidentally was also a Mirflex product and another the made for profit piece of short life garbage for the scuba shops can be found here:

And if that's not enough the Mirflex high pressure hose recall can be found here.
from the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission

XS Scuba Recalls Miflex High Pressure Diving Hoses Due to Drowning Hazard

Consumers should immediately stop using the hoses and contact XS Scuba to receive instructions for obtaining a free replacement hose.

www.cpsc.gov

189 Failures Lead to Recall of 17,000 Miflex Hoses: Undercurrent 05/2012

So that's one company who brand names stuff for many of your scuba retail suppliers and with multiple government recalls on both the high pressure and low interstage pressure hoses they supply.

Then we have as another example from the OP. This hose is manufactured from the likes of China and in this case Taiwan to to pathetic claimed so called standard of EN250. Now older divers will tell you that rubber hose is better when in fact that position was only met when divers hose was made in America by the well respected Gates Rubber company to the recognised standard SAE100 R3 to which the hose in this post is clearly not.

 

[iain/hsm]

Aside from your usual incomprehensible ravings, what problem are you talking about,

As I said earlier "Perception is for the misguided, the foolish and the idiot."

Please tick one or more of the above best suited and applicable to yourself.

 

[lexvil]

“This was a rubber hose and on the prior dive there were no bubbles at all.”

Such warm responses

 

[davehicks]

Like most things in recreational sports diving scuba equipment la la land the differences are more
in the use of made for profit components sourced from the cheapest recreational rink dink provider of toilet
and garden hose using compounds out of some backstreet chemical vendors back yard to some recreational sports DEMA standard and the inadequate standard of EN250 at the cheapest possible price for the importer distributor and retail dive store to maximise profit out of you the cash cow end user.

Rather than accept an international recognised standard for high pressure flexible hose pressure and gas of SAE 100R7 and R8 with the additional Non conductive option of core material for elevated oxygen concentrations and the advantage discussed earlier of a pricked outer cover or sheath.

Added to which end fitting that are professionally swaged by method of swaging or pallet swaged with a recognised with a certified bend radius performance and a pull test under pressure over a radius template.

The difference is in capability knowledge calibration certification together with quality assurance.

A properly manufactured frit at the regulator end also helps reduce and control the pressure shock loads and adiabatic shock pressure and heat loadings on the hose by contrast to when you fit the thing into the gauge to protect the internal ancient but cheap bourdon tube movement and the poor solder connections. Made for profit junk. Just saying.

For consideration Mind and perception is for the misguided the foolish and the idiot.

Now that's fixed it for you.

What's a FRIT?