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Thanks for the explanation, that sounds a lot more logical, and safer too. 
how to configure 2x 2nd stages? (necklaces?)
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i have a question about that side mount: when diving with doubles on the back and one side mount (deco), do you feel in the water like 'turning' to the side where the deco is? I am asking since I never tried that... I understand if you have two side mounts... but one?
sahsa
PS: pls don't start to shoot... I am trying to learn here
sahsa
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First of all I'll assume you mean a stage? Sidemount generally means there is no back mounted gas.
As for turning/tipping. I've only used an AL40 and AL80 stage bottle, and on limited occasions. I didn't feel like it was effecting my trim at all. If you're planning to go this route, stay away from steel, as they are bloody heavy.
Luxfer AL tanks seems to have a much better trim profile then Catalina. And if anyone wants to chime in on this with boyancy quotes you can just take a hike, has nothing to do with it (sigh...)
Just the way the Luxfer "rides".
using a DiveRite (what I use) or DIR style stage rigging will really help keep your stage in the right position under your arm. the tank Valve Ring style never worked for me, and as I am a DIR follower, I agree with the safety faillings of this method.
On another note. if you are planing to carry a stage as a 3rd indy, you're just making the dive more eqipment intensive when it doesn't have to be, but can me done. Use one backgas tank in, turn the dive, the other backgas tank out, and the stage as your redundant. IMHO, a larger twinset would solve this problem.
Good luck, and remember, KEEP IT SIMPLE. a good indy rig is very basic. avoid clutter.
EDIT: as in the picture posted above, the third cylinder he/she/you? had back mounted, I would have hung that as a stage. much safer/simpler.
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First of all I'll assume you mean a stage? Sidemount generally means there is no back mounted gas.
As for turning/tipping. I've only used an AL40 and AL80 stage bottle, and on limited occasions. I didn't feel like it was effecting my trim at all. If you're planning to go this route, stay away from steel, as they are bloody heavy.
Luxfer AL tanks seems to have a much better trim profile then Catalina. And if anyone wants to chime in on this with boyancy quotes you can just take a hike, has nothing to do with it (sigh...)
Just the way the Luxfer "rides".
using a DiveRite (what I use) or DIR style stage rigging will really help keep your stage in the right position under your arm. the tank Valve Ring style never worked for me, and as I am a DIR follower, I agree with the safety faillings of this method.
On another note. if you are planing to carry a stage as a 3rd indy, you're just making the dive more eqipment intensive when it doesn't have to be, but can me done. Use one backgas tank in, turn the dive, the other backgas tank out, and the stage as your redundant. IMHO, a larger twinset would solve this problem.
Good luck, and remember, KEEP IT SIMPLE. a good indy rig is very basic. avoid clutter.
EDIT: as in the picture posted above, the third cylinder he/she/you? had back mounted, I would have hung that as a stage. much safer/simpler.
Willer
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This kind of attitude is responsible for a lot of bad thoughts concerning DIR. As an European you probably studied what Inquisition did ... Maybe one day we'll have DIR guys burning strokes ...
I dive DiveRite, I dive Wrong, I'm a wanna be tec, I live in a third world country - either Halcion or GUE's guys don't care about a small market as Portugal, maybe you want to come here and teach us all how to tec dive ...
This kind of attitude is responsible for a lot of bad thoughts concerning DIR. As an European you probably studied what Inquisition did ... Maybe one day we'll have DIR guys burning strokes ...
I dive DiveRite, I dive Wrong, I'm a wanna be tec, I live in a third world country - either Halcion or GUE's guys don't care about a small market as Portugal, maybe you want to come here and teach us all how to tec dive ...
Aggghh! Don't BBQ me just cus he has attitude problems! Your statement is 100% correct tho. DIR may be a better way for a lot of people to dive, but that type of self righteous holier than tho attitude is what keeps a lot of people from discovering the benefits of DIR.
I have also noticed that the "real" DIR folks (esp. those that teach it, like MHK and others) dont display this type of attitude. It's usually from the people that are clueless about the concept and are regurgitating their "net learning" or just plain want to be an @$$ about it....
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Try these DIR TEC Diver, they are VERY effective.............
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one of the dissadvantages living in israel, is that we can NOT get whatever we want, like in UK, or US. Right now, due to some import regulations, it is almost impossible to import ANY scuba tank to Israel. I think that only scubapro has paid for the import licence. So , I can not just go in to LDS and buy whatever tank i want.
Second, it is like that not only with tanks, but rather with every non-standard products. So I can't either get non-standard lenght hoses.
Regarding my picture, it was for the purpose of learning, and I am/was aware that there were a lot of mistakes, but that is the point of learning... right? you learn from others (especially from this forum) and learn and learn...
As Sue said, not everyone is diving the same system, and it does not mean that they are diving wrong... they just dive different!
Now back to the topic. THe independent 10l steels are for bottom mix. The deco bottle is with 50% O2 for decompression.
Until now, i was putting it either back (as on the pic) and it was very convinient, or in front.
Some people here also suggested as a side mount... WOn't I turn that I side due to the weight?
DOn't forget, that those deco tanks are also rented, and I can get what diving club has... as simple as that, and we have to improvise and use this as good as possible.
sasha
Second, it is like that not only with tanks, but rather with every non-standard products. So I can't either get non-standard lenght hoses.
Regarding my picture, it was for the purpose of learning, and I am/was aware that there were a lot of mistakes, but that is the point of learning... right? you learn from others (especially from this forum) and learn and learn...
As Sue said, not everyone is diving the same system, and it does not mean that they are diving wrong... they just dive different!
Now back to the topic. THe independent 10l steels are for bottom mix. The deco bottle is with 50% O2 for decompression.
Until now, i was putting it either back (as on the pic) and it was very convinient, or in front.
Some people here also suggested as a side mount... WOn't I turn that I side due to the weight?
DOn't forget, that those deco tanks are also rented, and I can get what diving club has... as simple as that, and we have to improvise and use this as good as possible.
sasha
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Is this an option?
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