How many actually use diver buoy or surface marker buoy?

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I am glad all of you chimed in and made me more aware of the importance of how to use this device. From what I have gathered when using the DSMB (which is what I have) most deploy it right before their ascent. This is probably easier than at the safety stop I presume.

When inflating the DSMB (deployed surface marker buoy) you will use the Octo reg to inflate.Correct?
Then you will reel in the line as you ascend to surface or first safety stop. Am I correct on this or is there some thing else I should know on how to use the DSMB correctly.

It depends on the circumstances where and when I deploy it. If it is a fairly shallow wreck dive, I'd bag off at the shallowest part of the wreck, so I don't have as much line to reel in but have a visual reference of my depth to make buoyancy control easier. I still usually try to return to the shot rather than use a DSMB though.

When I first started using a DSMB, I had a self sealing type, so you open the bottom and squirt air in. I was taught a number of methods:

  1. Hold the bottom open and press the purge button on the octopus. This method is not always ideal as most my diving is in cold water. Pressing the purge button increases the chance of a freeflow.
  2. Hold the BCD inflater into the bottom and press both buttons simultaneously. This results in a stream of bubbles, but you have to watch your buoyancy. It may also be difficult to see the DSMB and you can increase the risk of it snagging and pulling you up.
  3. Turn your head to the left so the exhaust port of your second stage is pointing up, and exhale into the DSMB. I used to use this method. It was quite effective but you have to watch the line doesn't snag.
  4. Crack bottle. I've never tried one, but many swear by them. One type used a disposable CO2 bottle like you have in some air pistols and others have a small cylinder you charge using a decanting whip from your main cylinder before diving. With the latter type, you must close them before releasing. If you don't, you run the risk of water getting in and corroding the cylinder. As you can fill them yourself, many neglect to get them tested, and they are particularly prone to failure due to the possibility of water getting in. There are many accounts of crack bottles going 'bang'. The other issue is they are difficult to travel with as airlines don't often allow pressurised cylinders, even empty ones.
  5. My favourite type has a nipple that fits the quick connect on your BCD/suit inflate, but doesn't lock. I started using this type when I began using a CCR, as I cannot use option 3 any more. If I am diving open circuit, I disconnect the suit inflate and use that. If I am in a wetsuit, I leave my suit inflate connected, run it along the harness and tuck it behind a D-ring so I can find it when I need it, but it doesn't flap about. On CCR, I carry a side mounted ali-80 as a bailout. I have an inflater hose tucked in the hose tidy - this can be used to plumb the bailout into the rebreather of I have a problem with the on-board diluent, but mostly it will be used to inflate my blob.

One of our instructors at our club teaches students to kneel on the bottom and deploy as a buddy pair (one holds the reel and one inflates the blob). Whilst this is an easy way to do it, you have to bear in mind you don't always have a bottom to kneel on, and you may not always have a buddy! My preferred drill on buddy separation is to launch a DSMB, as it lets the first diver on the surface know where their buddy is and that they're okay. It is also a good idea to have your name in big letters on your blob so you can be identified.

I would always advise launching a blob any opportunity you get, as it keeps your skills sharp for when you really need to use them. At our local quarry, there is a plane near the entry point in about 14 metres. I like to use the wing-tip as a point to practice mid-water deployment.

There was an incident in the UK recently, where two divers were taken out to sea and had to be rescued. The skipper boat that collected them said the white of the tank helped spot them. Neither diver had a DSMB though, which would have made it much easier to spot them. It turned out they were from a university BSAC club and one was the Diving Officer!
 
We talking flag, or Surface marker buoy?

I HATE flag buoys, but rent one when I hafta (Phil Foster Park in Palm Beach).

I don't use a surface marker buoy, meaning deployed from a reel when still down there, during ascent. Often my buddies do. Cool.

I do carry a surface sausage on all dives, and often use it on drift dives so the boat can find me. You never know....

Basically either. The main purpose to my question is are you using some method of alerting boaters that you are in that area diving.

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It depends on the circumstances where and when I deploy it. If it is a fairly shallow wreck dive, I'd bag off at the shallowest part of the wreck, so I don't have as much line to reel in but have a visual reference of my depth to make buoyancy control easier. I still usually try to return to the shot rather than use a DSMB though.

When I first started using a DSMB, I had a self sealing type, so you open the bottom and squirt air in. I was taught a number of methods:

  1. Hold the bottom open and press the purge button on the octopus. This method is not always ideal as most my diving is in cold water. Pressing the purge button increases the chance of a freeflow.
  2. Hold the BCD inflater into the bottom and press both buttons simultaneously. This results in a stream of bubbles, but you have to watch your buoyancy. It may also be difficult to see the DSMB and you can increase the risk of it snagging and pulling you up.
  3. Turn your head to the left so the exhaust port of your second stage is pointing up, and exhale into the DSMB. I used to use this method. It was quite effective but you have to watch the line doesn't snag.
  4. Crack bottle. I've never tried one, but many swear by them. One type used a disposable CO2 bottle like you have in some air pistols and others have a small cylinder you charge using a decanting whip from your main cylinder before diving. With the latter type, you must close them before releasing. If you don't, you run the risk of water getting in and corroding the cylinder. As you can fill them yourself, many neglect to get them tested, and they are particularly prone to failure due to the possibility of water getting in. There are many accounts of crack bottles going 'bang'. The other issue is they are difficult to travel with as airlines don't often allow pressurised cylinders, even empty ones.
  5. My favourite type has a nipple that fits the quick connect on your BCD/suit inflate, but doesn't lock. I started using this type when I began using a CCR, as I cannot use option 3 any more. If I am diving open circuit, I disconnect the suit inflate and use that. If I am in a wetsuit, I leave my suit inflate connected, run it along the harness and tuck it behind a D-ring so I can find it when I need it, but it doesn't flap about. On CCR, I carry a side mounted ali-80 as a bailout. I have an inflater hose tucked in the hose tidy - this can be used to plumb the bailout into the rebreather of I have a problem with the on-board diluent, but mostly it will be used to inflate my blob.

One of our instructors at our club teaches students to kneel on the bottom and deploy as a buddy pair (one holds the reel and one inflates the blob). Whilst this is an easy way to do it, you have to bear in mind you don't always have a bottom to kneel on, and you may not always have a buddy! My preferred drill on buddy separation is to launch a DSMB, as it lets the first diver on the surface know where their buddy is and that they're okay. It is also a good idea to have your name in big letters on your blob so you can be identified.

I would always advise launching a blob any opportunity you get, as it keeps your skills sharp for when you really need to use them. At our local quarry, there is a plane near the entry point in about 14 metres. I like to use the wing-tip as a point to practice mid-water deployment.

There was an incident in the UK recently, where two divers were taken out to sea and had to be rescued. The skipper boat that collected them said the white of the tank helped spot them. Neither diver had a DSMB though, which would have made it much easier to spot them. It turned out they were from a university BSAC club and one was the Diving Officer!

Great info, and also on the advice to practice this often.
 
We never use one. But, we are diving in San Carlos, Mexico off of my Miami Vice boat and my captain flies a large scuba flag on a large pole above the boat. He watches us and is very adept at pulling anchor and coming to get us the few times that we have needed it due to a strong current.
 
I dive around South East Asia and carry a 2m smb & 30m spool, but I only deploy it once per trip as practice. Partly because it's big so it is inconvenient to deploy and stow it every dive.

I'm probably getting a 1m one on the next dive expo..
 
...my favourite example on how not to do it is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KpZe7A1NqU I expect he'd been at it for a while. Note the internationally recognised gesture of frustration at 0:14...
Good thing he didn't get any air in it.

Um... Wow. I ran the gamut from laughter, to horror and foreboding, to relief that he just gave it up.
 
I dive around South East Asia and carry a 2m smb & 30m spool, but I only deploy it once per trip as practice. Partly because it's big so it is inconvenient to deploy and stow it every dive.

I'm probably getting a 1m one on the next dive expo..
Save your ringgit.
Size does matter if you wanted to be seen!
 
I always carry an SMB and if not going up an Upline I use it. I always carry 2 and have sufficient line to deploy from the bottom if necessary.

I find it so stupid. comments made by a diver I dived with recently when asked if they had an SMB. She said, she had one. I suggested she practice using it, but she said she didn't intend on ever using it unless she had to?

It was very clear to me that she had no idea how to use it and had no intention of practicing, even though I encouraged everyone in the group to do this. I tried to engage the group in methods of deploying them etc, while some were interested, she simply walked off. In diving with this person more, I found she had quite a personality problem, hence I suggest "carrying an SMB because she should, and it looks good, but not having the knowledge or skills to correctly deploy it at depth.

Practice, practice, practice.

I used mine at the end of every dive, and the boat captain said he appreciated it as both I and the guide had them up so it gave him an indication of where the group was.
 
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