How does a frogfish get to Hawaii?

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Ever notice how you see many of the same species thousands of miles apart?

Take the frogfish. See them in Bonaire, see them in Hawaii. How did it move that far? I can't see a frogfish swimming through the panama canal, then covering thousands of miles of open ocean. :shocked2:

Same goes for eels, angelfish, etc.
 
Theres several different possible ways for this migration of species to happen that has been claimed to be plausible and/or confirmed, amongst others;
- Drifting as eggs/hatchlings and even adult species on/around driftwood.
- Violent storms can pick small critters up and transport them in altitude before they "rain down".
- Continents has drifted, early versions of the critters can have moved away with the movement of the continents. Probably not to hawaii though as thats a result of volcanoes :p
 
And the frogfish you saw in Bonaire are likely not the same species you saw in Hawaii. Same genus, different species.
 
Yeah, there is of course that too, but I consider that an urban myth, like the alligators getting flushed down the toilet


not really
 
We know from genetic studies that most marine species trace their roots back to the Indo-Pacific region, roughly in the area known as the coral triangle. This is the site of the world's oldest coral reefs and where the highest marine biodiversity on the planet can be found. As part of their life cycle (usually a drifting planktonic larval phase) they drift on currents, get carried by floating debris, etc. until they come to a suitable location to settle and grow up.

The trip to Hawaii was rather straightforward. The pelagic larval phase island hopped from island to seamount across the Pacific until a few members arrived on the shore of Hawaii. Hawaii's isolation accounts for the abnormally high rate of endemism (found nowhere else). Approximately a third of Hawaii's fish species, for example, are found nowhere else.

There is a twist in the journey of the Caribbean frogfish. The Panama Canal may have been manmade, but thousands of years prior to us digging our famous trench, the whole isthmus of Panama was submerged allowing for lots of species exchange between the two water masses. Like Hawaii, the organisms most likely island hopped on over to the Caribbean Sea from the south Pacific. However, once Central America emerged from the ocean in its current state, it blocked the transfer of organisms and the future evolution of a whole suite of organisms took two distinctly different paths. That's why you often see almost similar species occurring in both the Atlantic and Pacific sides of that area.
 
From Wikipedia:

For most species, the eggs drift on the surface. After two to five days, the fish hatch and the newly hatched alevin are between .8 and 1.6 mm long (.03 and .07 in). For the first few days they live on the yolk sac while their digestive systems continue to develop. The young have long fin filaments and can resemble tiny, tentacled jellyfish. For one to two months they live planktonically.

So they live planktonically for up to two months, and I think it's going to take at least that long to get to Hawaii from the West coast of the US relying on currents and such.


Pretty cool. I guess a whole lot of species traveled that way.

Now, why didn't the clownfish make it to the Caribbean?
 
The clownfish didnt make it because although its small and cute it has the ego of a blue whale and pick a fight with anything it can :eyebrow:
 
Yeah, there is of course that too, but I consider that an urban myth, like the alligators getting flushed down the toilet


not really


yes it is a myth, like the lion fish in the Caribbean, the Atlantic and the gulf of Mexico, and the African pythons in Fla, they really migrated there:confused:, and as recently as snakes in Hawaii (Oahu)
 

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