How do I improve my air consumption?

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Marcos once bubbled...
I strongly feel your physical conditioning, particularly your aerobic conditioning has a lot to do with your air consumption.
I haven't noticed much different in resting SAC, but my level of aerobic/cardovascular fitness seems to make a big difference in how much my SAC goes up with increasing workload.
Higher fitness level means you can swim harder without running out of breath and panting.
 
Hello, first time post so go easy!!

I've just been diving in Sharm for the second time, I have my OW and Adv OW. I've clocked up about 20 dives all in the Red Sea, I've noticed that I have a couple of probs.. my air consumption seems very high.. I got through a 15L tank slightly quicker that most other people go through a 12L.

Underwater I'm not stressed out, and I feel quite relaxed. I'm thinking that the air consumption may be because of

1. I've tried breathing deeply and slowly but when I do so I seem to start ascending quite quickly when my lungs are full, even though I have neutral bouyancy when stationary.

2. When I stop finning, my legs always seem to sink and I adopt a vertical postion, whereas other divers seem to be able to hold a horizontal position, is this something to do with my weight distribution or maybe I'm taking too much weight!?!?

3. I think point 1 may be related to point 1 maybe because my legs are pointing down I' finning up slightly...... arggg... I'm at a bit of a loss really

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Paul
 
Well, first off, welcome to the board.

As for consumption, that really comes with time and is an individual thing. Some people use more than others, that is just the way it is.

A quick question I have would be how much weight are you taking down with you, what exp protection are you wearing, and have you considered trying to move some of that weight off of your weight belt? Fro instance maybe some trim pockets on the top of your BC, or a weight integrated, or something along those lines.

BTW, continue the deeper breathing, with time, you'll be able to adjust to the motion you have in the water column.
 
I'm using about 9KG on a weight belt, I'll have to try the weights in the pocket or maybe removing some weight. I'm about 102KG and about 6'5" I'm gonna have to start diving in the UK, didn't really want to as I imagine its v.cold but I'm going to have to bite the bullet so to speak.

When you say exp protection is that wet suit? or something else.. sorry to be dense!!!

Thanks

Paul
 
Paul,

With regards to the post by Big-T, by Exp protection he means exposure suit, and definately don't worry about asking questions, Questions are honestly never stupid, especially where diving is concerned!

Now with regards to your breathing rate, basically you will find that your rate of consumption decreases over time as you become more confident in the water. Although you don't feel stressed, there is always the anxiety and thrill of diving that could increase your consumption rate.

That said, maybe you just have big lungs, your not exactly a small person and maybe you need a lot of air. I dive frequently with someone who is about 110Kilos and he can suck a 15ltr tank dry and I mean near to completion and I will still have between 50 and 75 bar remaining on a 12ltr. My consumption isn't brilliant, it's just the fact he gets through a lot of air.

Regarding the level of exposure suit you are wearing, how thick is it?

Now the positioning in the water, I think it's simply a matter of preferance and experience with regards to how you float mid water after you stop finning.

Do you choose the vertical positioning over the horizontal position, or do you have difficulty maintaining a horizontal position?

If the later, think about your weights and their distribution :- are you using a weight belt, by the sounds of it, probably so. When you are in the UK think about investing in a good weight integrated BCD, for example a Sea Quest Pro QD. The weights can be nicely placed in either the quick release retainers or in pockets towards the at the back top of the BCD and the BCD itself is very good!

Do you find you descend quicker than the other divers? Basically although I know people who like to descend like a lump of lead, personally I prefer to just manage the descent with completely emplty lungs, think about binning 1 kilo to start with and see if you can still get under. By loosing just 1 Kilo you don't have to worry about it too much, if you can descend then for this once go head first, and re-adjust your weights later to suit. But I think you will probably manage it.

Also using 8 Kilos is easier for the weght distribution.

Now regarding diving in the UK. It is actually suprisingly good, colder yes, but good and diving in the UK and in not so pampered conditions will improve your dive ten fold if you return to the Red Sea. I have found that the worse your general diving conditions are, the better adapted you become, and when you then dive in luxury conditions, such as the red sea, it is the most relaxing dive experience you could imagine.

I hope this helps, and i hope I don't offend anyone by recommending the head down approach to getting under the surface, but it works and you don't have to mess around changing your weight mid water.

Paul
 
tspxm once bubbled...
I'm using about 9KG on a weight belt, I'll have to try the weights in the pocket or maybe removing some weight. I'm about 102KG and about 6'5" I'm gonna have to start diving in the UK, didn't really want to as I imagine its v.cold but I'm going to have to bite the bullet so to speak.

When you say exp protection is that wet suit? or something else.. sorry to be dense!!!

Thanks

Paul

Hi Paul,

You said you were diving in the Red Sea, right? So you're probably using a 3mm wetsuit or a shorty in fairly salty water. A 15litre tank (assuming it's from steel) is a big 4kg negative at the start of a dive and a touch negative at the end. With this kind of setup I personally wouldn't need *any* weights. From your height and weight I'd say you're not packing much flab so I wouldn't expect you to need any weights either; again, assuming the tank is steel and not aluminium.

If we assume that that tank *is* made from aluminium then it might be up to 3kg positive at the end of the dive so you might need up to 4 or 4.5 kg or so to compensate for the tank and the light wetsuit.

But to me 9 kg sounds way out of line with the conditions you dive in. To give you frame of reference, I don't use much more than that in a drysuit with a thick undergarment in salt water with a similar tank. I'd say that having all that weight on your hips is very likely dragging your hips down (especially when you stop swimming) and that this would explain why your feet sink. If it also explains why your air consumption is higher than you'd like is the 64,000 dollar question. It probably explains part of it.

R..
 
Looks like the guys have got a handle on your woes.

Probably too much weight

Definately not placed properly...the feet down trim position... move the weight higher if possible, and wear the tank higher in the strap if possible.

Rising as you breath......This is one of those things that experience seems to correct, but few actually seem to notice why.... as you read this, breath, and notice whether you let your tummy out as you inhale, or expand your chest And pull in your tummy. If you expand your chest, and suck in your gut...you'll maintain the same overall displacement and remain neutral. Practice it and it will become second nature, you can also use your tummy muscle along with chest expansion, to change bouyancy as you need to rise or descend over the bottom topography.

Hope you find all you need, great folks to ask of here



Darlene
 
Scuba_Vixen once bubbled...
If you expand your chest, and suck in your gut...you'll maintain the same overall displacement and remain neutral.

Scuba_Vixen,

Are you sure this works? Because to me it doesn't sound right. Your body tissue is constant density, and thus constant volume. So, if you inhale air and increase your lung volume, what ever you do with your other body parts, you will still become more buoyant. If you are not increasing your overall volume, then you are not inhaling air at all.
 
and it doesn't defy any physical laws....

Try inhaling as you read this..expand your tummy and chest....

Now, without exhaling, suck in your gut..pull your tummy flat.

You've compressed the air a bit into the chest area and lowered your total displacement...you still have the same amout of air you started with....

BTW...Exhale now...

Hope that helped,

Darlene
 
Best advice is simple- dont worry or think about your breathing. Just dive. Your SAC will come down. Everyones does.

You may not think you're stressed, exerting yourself or whatever but it still takes practice.

Slow co-ordinated movements, proper weighting and just dive, the more you do the lower your SAC will get.

As for diving in the UK, yep its cold but people get away with 7+7mm semi dry for the summer months but most people who dive regulary buy and use a dry suit. That way only your hands and face tend to get cold and its certainly not a problem.

Although a totally different build to you i dive with 8kg in a 5mm full suit abroad and 12kg with a dry suit in the UK.
MOST uk divers i know on a single setup use between 10 and 15kg.
 

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