Horizontal Ascents...

[Jarhead]

O-ring once bubbled...


Fin a little? If current is too bad, grab onto something or use a jonline...

I apologize. My comment was not straight forward.

My understanding is you should do the horizontal ascent facing your dive buddy. On a stationary ascent line, with any current, this is near impossible. You end up side-by-side holding the line or stacked vertically holding the line. A horizontal position will give the current less body to push against, though.

Jarhead

 

[O-ring]

And should we use a bad idea (or ~ being generous here ~ the exceptional case) to determine the best way to ascend?

Pugsley, Pugsley, Pugsley...*sigh* Do we have to rehash that whole tying in vs. live boating argument again? Up here in the NE people do it differently (wrong?). The anchor line is stationary and the zodiac often doesn't work (hehe).

Until we get some captains and some outfits doing it "differently", we are stuck with operations that are closer to the JT side of the continuum than the JJ side...

I think I mentioned this before, but we got yelled at once (Tombiowami and I) for coming up off the anchor line...

Now, I know what you are going to say, but I really, really, really don't like option 1..

 

[Uncle Pug]

roakey once bubbled...
I had a motor boat come up and STEAL my dive flag at Lake Pueblo, does that count?

... it explains " with or without"... if that is what you mean.

 

[Spectre]

NetDoc once bubbled...
4) Any more???

My main two reasons are 1) ascending with light / medium currents... You have to hang on the line if your not horizontal. 2) neutral bouyancy. It's always within my breath control to get to neutral bouyancy... If something happens that is a distraction, I don't have to establish neutral bouyancy to deal with it...

The Pugster casted out the lure...
Also explain why you would be ascending in an area with jet ski traffic with or without a dive marker/lift bag.

The further you are from the flag/marker, the better chance you don't get hit by the morons using your bag/flag as a slalom pole.

 

[Uncle Pug]

AaronBBrown once bubbled...



And that would be?

... I figured you would want to know:

Ancillary muscles.... not a good sign in a patient.... but hey... ya gotta move air some how or other.


(for example the intercostals)

 

[Uncle Pug]

Jarhead once bubbled...
On a stationary ascent line, with any current, this is near impossible.

...one guy is really good at finning backward

 

[Jarhead]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...

And should we use a bad idea (or ~ being generous here ~ the exceptional case) to determine the best way to ascend?

Which is the "bad idea?

Current - A gulf dive without some current is as rare as "hens-teeth".

Stationary Ascent line - Typically used to keep the boat in place. All the operators that I have dived with (Yes, this number is very limited) discourage free ascents except in emergencies. It not uncommon to have a 2-4 naut. surface current.

Jarhead

 

[Jarhead]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...

...one guy is really good at finning backward

LOL...

 

[Soggy]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...

... I figured you would want to know:

Ancillary muscles.... not a good sign in a patient.... but hey... ya gotta move air some how or other.

(for example the intercostals)

Even then there would be some use of the diaphragm unless the patient was paralized below the chest, but you are right...in some situation, I'm sure it is possible to use only the ancillary muscles and not the diaphragm....it would be extraordinarily difficult to breath and the person would need to be assisted in breathing, but it is possible.

I should have said, "like there is any other way to breathe normally"

 

[O-ring]

Stationary Ascent line - Typically used to keep the boat in place. All the operators that I have dived with (Yes, this number is very limited) discourage free ascents except in emergencies. It not uncommon to have a 2-4 naut. surface current.

Some people (UP3 included I think) don't like the idea of the boat being tied in unless there are chase boats for all the dive teams. They don't do that up here either (NE)...if they even have a chase boat, you are on a pretty nice boat...if it works, you aren't in the northeast